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  • Animats2 hours ago
    Nice.<p>Tesla claims they will &quot;ramp up&quot; production to 50,000 units per year. When does the 100th unit roll off the line? Let&#x27;s see some actuals. Tesla&#x27;s volume and delivery time estimates do not have a good history of reliability. Volvo has 5,000 electric semitrucks on the road right now.<p>Tesla also announced that MDB Drayage is using Tesla tractors to haul container chassis around the Port of Los Angeles.[1] But the pictures show a Tesla tractor hauling an ordinary box semitrailer, not a container on a container chassis. The MDB Drayage is just a three-week test, too. Drayage is almost the ideal use.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;electrek.co&#x2F;2026&#x2F;04&#x2F;29&#x2F;tesla-semi-drayage-operator-mdb-pilot-port-freight&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;electrek.co&#x2F;2026&#x2F;04&#x2F;29&#x2F;tesla-semi-drayage-operator-m...</a>
    • narrator2 hours ago
      The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.
      • darth_avocado1 hour ago
        My model 3 also “has” 350+ mile range. Barely goes 270 in the real world with conservative driving. Trucking needs a lot more.
      • 7e1 hour ago
        Tesla has a history of exaggerating the ranges of their vehicles to an extent that competitors do not.
        • SlightlyLeftPad1 hour ago
          Being a two-time Tesla owner for 8 years, at this point, there is no claim Tesla can possibly make that I would ever believe. Their (and Elon’s) track record on countless claims have been wildly misleading at best or completely false at worst.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;transportation&#x2F;917167&#x2F;elon-musk-tesla-hw3-fsd" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;transportation&#x2F;917167&#x2F;elon-musk-tes...</a>
        • jerlam1 hour ago
          Trucking seems like an industry where exaggerating the range will lead to contracts being cancelled and companies being sued. I&#x27;m assuming that a Tesla Semi can&#x27;t just stop off at the nearest Supercharger.
          • mlmonkey1 hour ago
            I&#x27;ve read that Semis need to use a &quot;MegaCharger&quot; ...
            • danaw52 minutes ago
              big branding fail not using &quot;gigacharger&quot;
              • iknowstuff33 minutes ago
                Megacharger because they&#x27;re a Megawatt of power. 1.2MW
          • whateveracct1 hour ago
            they haven&#x27;t gotten on the road yet, so it remains to be seen
  • milleramp1 hour ago
    I hope so. Regardless of who does it, generations of children in Los Angeles growing up in the corridors of the 5,10,110,210,405,605,710 freeways have asthma, likely caused from the soot of diesel trucks. Edit, couldn&#x27;t leave out the worst experience in the US, i405.
    • coreyh1444412 minutes ago
      Born in 1975 in LA and have asthma. I suppose I&#x27;m pretty smart compared to most, but I do wonder if they had removed leaded gasoline earlier if I would have had a few more IQ points. So, yes, please do root for electric transportation!
    • comrh1 hour ago
      You can&#x27;t discount the dust from the tires either unfortunately
      • levocardia1 hour ago
        (which electric cars and trucks also reduce, because of regenerative braking)
        • tzs1 hour ago
          Doesn&#x27;t regenerative braking reduce <i>brake</i> dust, not <i>tire</i> dust?
          • real0mar55 minutes ago
            Correct. And tire dust increases because electric vehicles are usually heavier
        • egeozcan27 minutes ago
          My father who owns an electric car (I don&#x27;t) told me that the increased torque eats away the tires much faster. Not sure how connected to the reality that is.
          • m10115 minutes ago
            Increased forces from similar speeds but with more weight in cornering wears down tires more in electric cars. Less so the torque myths
  • aidenn02 hours ago
    A 30 minute charge means each charger can service a maximum of 48 tractors per day, and realistically probably less than that. I wonder how many trucks fill at a typical diesel filling station per day.
    • mlmonkey1 hour ago
      Could they automate the &quot;grab the charging cable and plug it in&quot; part (as well as the &quot;take the cable out and stow it away&quot; part)? Trucks would then be able to just pull in, charge up and pull out quickly.
      • solid_fuel51 minutes ago
        Automating the part that takes 1 minute is not really going to make a difference when the charging takes 29 more.
    • tiffanyh2 hours ago
      ~10 min to fill diesel semi.<p>So electric can only service 1&#x2F;3 of semi, <i>when truck stop is at full capacity</i>.
      • mzi52 minutes ago
        But you can go 1500 miles on a full tank, so with electricity you have to account for three times as many vehicles as well (given the stated range is correct)
    • HWR_141 hour ago
      Seems like about 10 minutes, and a single pump averages around 100 a day (although guessing that second one could have some serious rounding)
    • defrost1 hour ago
      Have you seen the demo&#x27;s of &quot;truck pack&quot; batteries being removed from prime mover, transferred to charge station, replaced with already charged truck pack, all done with a mini fork lift?<p>It&#x27;s a 15 minute roll in &#x2F; roll out kind of turn around.<p>The game&#x27;s not over and the big transport operators (eg: Rio Tinto mine fleets moving a billion tonne per annum, etc) are still doing the R&amp;D pipeline and trialling pilots.
      • zdragnar1 hour ago
        This has been tried before for public use and failed for all of the obvious reasons.<p>It should get adoption from companies big enough to run their own fleets (such as the mining company mentioned) but it won&#x27;t be a suitable method for a good percentage of the long haul trucks in the States.<p>With that said, I would think chargers should be fine for a lot of those trucks if the infrastructure builds out for them. The drivers are already taking breaks every few hours by regulation, so they can top off rather than going from empty to full.
      • tacticus1 hour ago
        Have you seen the demo of what you can get with some wires and low friction traction options :P
    • Teever2 hours ago
      My first job was pumping gas at regular neighbour gas station and one day a semi rolled in because he was low on gas. He insisted that we use both diesel pumps on the pump so that it would take faster and it still took forever. I can&#x27;t remember if he filled both side of his truck but if he did that would have required him to go around the island to get the other side tank.<p>I&#x27;ve only been to a cardlock station a few times but the pumps seem like regular pumps.<p>I just looked it up and apparently regular gas station pumps in Canada are limited to 38 L&#x2F;min (10 US gal&#x2F;min) but some cardlock stations can have larger pumps with a higher rate on them.<p>If a semi truck has two saddle tanks that&#x27;s 200-300 gallons, but some trucks can apparently carry more? I&#x27;m not an expert on this, But I can reach out to a friend who owns a crane and trucking company if someone else doesn&#x27;t chime in with a more detailed response.<p>So at 200-300 gallons and 10 gallons per minute it can take 20-30 minutes to fill a truck.
      • bombcar1 hour ago
        Truck stop pumps can do 30 GPM &quot;on both sides&quot; as they have two pumps connected to one bay.<p>There are faster (600 GPM or more) but those are specialized for loading boats, etc; the air can&#x27;t escape the tank fast enough to use those on a truck.
      • ticulatedspline1 hour ago
        stats vary. seems ~250 is common (2x 125 gals) and long haul ranges up to 2,000 miles.<p>Though another way to think of filling up is miles per minute. At 10Gal&#x2F;Min and 7MPG that&#x27;s pumping 70 miles a minute into the tank.<p>an 80% charge in 30 minutes on a 500 mile range battery is ~13 Miles a minute so roughly 5x slower
      • shawn_w1 hour ago
        I don&#x27;t know about exact rates, but diesel pumps in banks intended for semis have a larger diameter nozzle that flows faster than the normal sized ones, yeah. They won&#x27;t fit diesel cars&#x2F;vans&#x2F;light trucks.
    • AtlasBarfed1 hour ago
      I think we should do is have a second trailer that basically functions as the primary battery pack. The tractor&#x27;s pack is back up or range extension<p>So when a semi pulls into a truck stop, you swap that caboose cab with a fully charged one.
      • danaw50 minutes ago
        so you have massive batteries just sitting on chargers waiting for the next truck to come by? seems expensive
  • chopete31 hour ago
    &lt;This is not a Tesla bashing note. Genuine information questions &gt;<p>50,000 vehicles per year capacity is a lot. Is there really demand for so many vehicles?.<p>&gt;&gt; This makes the Tesla Semi the lowest-priced Class 8 battery electric tractor on the market,<p>How much is the difference?. Critical details left out.<p>&gt;&gt; specs confirm a 500-mile range<p>Aren&#x27;t there trucks with this range already?<p>&gt;&gt; &quot;Tesla Semi as a Service&quot; model is needed to eliminate the capital expenditure barrier entirely,<p>Good but how is this novel?
    • masklinn17 minutes ago
      Longuest I know of in Europe is Volvo’s claims of 700 on the new FH Aero ER, afaik. Renault and Iveco are at 600. And that would be at 90kph.<p>However euro trucks may not bother extending range given given the driving regulations: drivers can only drive 4.5h before a mandatory 45mn rest break, so as long as the truck does 400km (with a bit of safety margin) and can charge fast enough in 45mn to do that again afterwards it’s probably going to do the job for long range trucking.<p>On the other hand, the eu allows electric semis to weigh 4 tonnes more than diesel, in the US it’s just 2000lbs <i>and</i> not every state has implemented that.
    • Mashimo1 hour ago
      At least the Mercedes-Benz eActros a6000 has only 500 km range.
    • danaw46 minutes ago
      as we know from tesla none of these claims will actually come to fruition once these reach customers
  • donkyrf2 hours ago
    meanwhile Freightliner, Volvo, and BYD already have active fleets.
    • masklinn31 minutes ago
      In Europe I’m pretty sure every brand has e trucks: Mercedes, daf, Renault, Scania, …
    • mlmonkey1 hour ago
      But do they have Self Driving? A Semi with self-driving would be a game changer. I just got FSD v14.3.2 and it is quite impressive. I drove all over the Bay Area today (SF -&gt; East Bay -&gt; PA -&gt; RWC -&gt; back) and didn&#x27;t have to touch the steering wheel practically at all.
      • donkyrf1 hour ago
        They have ADAS systems. And Volvo is already working with Aurora which is doing live tests of actual self driving, similar to Waymo.<p>There&#x27;s no news here.<p>Self-driving is no longer the future of Tesla. That stock pump has largely run its course, and is being replaced by AI and the robot army.<p>Once SpaceX goes public, SpaceX will acquire Tesla (solving Musk&#x27;s control issues with Tesla stock), and that&#x27;ll be the end of Musk pretending to care about cars.
      • whateveracct1 hour ago
        &gt; But do they have Self Driving?<p>lol, does TSLA?
    • claytongulick2 hours ago
      I don&#x27;t understand the point you&#x27;re making, are you saying that because there are already electric semi&#x27;s on the market, Tesla shouldn&#x27;t compete?<p>Or are you being critical that Tesla didn&#x27;t enter the market first?<p>If it&#x27;s the second point, are you accurately comparing the vehicles and their capabilities?
      • donkyrf1 hour ago
        It&#x27;s not newsworthy. There are more than a dozen companies shipping electric semis in low quantities, and at least three who have been shipping and supporting them for years. Anybody who thinks this the Tesla Semi is notable should go learn about the existing market.<p>Tesla announced this thing a decade ago and they rolled one off of a theoretical line. Who cares?<p>There&#x27;s nothing new here. There&#x27;s no new information about this late-landing product. There&#x27;s no story of huge guaranteed bookings, or new unexpected capabilities. It&#x27;s a non-story.<p>As for your demand that I provide an accurate product comparison -- driver reviews routinely indicate that the &#x27;driver at the center&#x27; seating position makes it harder for truckers to actually do their work, because they can&#x27;t easily reach out their window to access terminals, perform document exchanges, etc.<p>So, I&#x27;ll augment my position: not only is this a non-story... it&#x27;s a non-story about a vehicle with a notable design flaw.
    • iknowstuff21 minutes ago
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  • calmbonsai1 hour ago
    Uh...does Electrek.co not do basic math or understand how factories (and markets) are valued? This is waaaay too early to judge anything.<p>The &quot;milestone that matters&quot; is $&#x2F;defect&#x2F;volume. Until this factory has measurable volume and measurable costs for defects on that volume, it&#x27;s not an actual factory.
  • 7e1 hour ago
    Tesla is trying to escape launching the semi TEN YEARS after announcing it. Instead, they are attempting to launch a mere nine years after announcing it.<p>The Pepsi trials with this truck were a disaster, we’ll see if they fixed the numerous problems.
    • AtlasBarfed1 hour ago
      Can you provide more detail on the Pepsi trials? I haven&#x27;t read anything about it
      • aggakake56 minutes ago
        With the Frito Lay trials there were numerous cases of the Tesla trucks dying and needing to be towed by ICE trucks.
  • alterom2 hours ago
    &quot;High volume&quot;?<p>Coming from Tesla, I&#x27;ll believe it after they actually ship a high volume of those units.
    • rayiner1 hour ago
      The Model Y is neck-and-neck with the Toyota RAV4 as the most widely sold car model in the world.
    • Zetaphor2 hours ago
      Bonus points if the body panels don&#x27;t fall off and it can drive through a puddle
    • doctorwho422 hours ago
      &gt;0 is a high volume for something that was supposed to start rolling off the production line back in 2019....
      • nubinetwork1 hour ago
        Usually I&#x27;d say better late than never, but you have to wonder why anyone would buy anything from tesla because of the promises and delays...
        • ben_w25 minutes ago
          Personally I&#x27;m surprised there&#x27;s enough such people to keep the share price where it is and not shift one or two decimal places.
  • SadErn2 hours ago
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  • xyst2 hours ago
    I am willing to bet this semi underperforms in all relevant categories. Just like the rest of their overpriced consumer products.
    • OccamsMirror1 hour ago
      I wonder how truckers are going to like having to get up and walk over to the door to talk to gate security or hand over paperwork.<p>Feels like a dumb design to me.
    • delichon2 hours ago
      &gt; Tesla enters high-volume production with a meaningful lead on price and range.<p>I&#x27;ll take that bet on price and range. And I&#x27;d bet it&#x27;ll have lower cost of ownership than diesel.
      • danaw42 minutes ago
        i&#x27;ll take that bet