29 comments

  • aliljet1 hour ago
    This is a tough moment. Claude is simultaneously becoming substantially more expensive, substantially less reliable (single 9 of reliability), and substantially less performant. It's really hard to justify the cost of a subscription over there right now.
    • giancarlostoro56 minutes ago
      There was another thread where some people pointed out, Amazon will give you access to Claude with better uptime for the same price (per million tokens up &#x2F; down), downside is, it does not have the native ability to browse the web, but maybe that&#x27;s a hidden blessing, since it&#x27;s less likely to read some random website that has prompt injection embedded into it.<p>For coding its fine, I havent experimented too much with Amazon Bedrock myself, but I just might soon to check for any limitations.
      • 2001zhaozhao2 minutes ago
        Maybe the best play is to set up a routing system locally so that when claude.ai is down it automatically switches to Amazon billing and switches back when it comes back up
      • willsmith7227 minutes ago
        But that&#x27;s just paying per use right, not with the subscription which is way better value
    • datadrivenangel58 minutes ago
      From an economics perspective, it makes sense to make it more expensive if you&#x27;re having trouble keeping up with demand for a service. It&#x27;ll be tough getting used to because it was so nice and cheap
      • a_victorp29 minutes ago
        On the other hand, it was somewhat expected that we would have a correction for the prices. Hopefully after this correction things will be more stable and we won&#x27;t have to worry too much about future price increases
    • edmundsauto47 minutes ago
      YMMV. I would still be very happy with Claude if it hard failed on 20% of tasks. You can always come back to it.<p>I say this as someone working for a tech company who does not have to foot the bill (in the &gt;$1k per month bracket)<p>I also experienced and accept the 1990s levels of unreliability, which is my “internet generation”. My first access was lifting a handset and placing on a speaker&#x2F;mic cradle.<p>Programmers these days are fucking spoiled. If it’s $220 worth of value for $200 - I get it. But I’m getting $100k of value for $10k and so I’ll put up with some shit.
      • willsmith7225 minutes ago
        &gt; If it’s $220 worth of value for $200 - I get it.<p>Wrong comparison. If a competitor gives you $230 of value for $200, of course you shouldn&#x27;t pick the $220 one
      • bbeonx45 minutes ago
        lol i love this post. not 100% sure i agree, but not 100% i don&#x27;t. but great post, 10&#x2F;10
      • wahnfrieden43 minutes ago
        or just use codex...
      • henriquez41 minutes ago
        [dead]
    • smugma31 minutes ago
      We used to describe our startup as having 5 8’s of uptime
    • chillfox57 minutes ago
      Interestingly, yeah, I can see that this would really cut into your subscription usage with the 5 hour rate limit windows...<p>I am an API user, and while it being down is super annoying, it isn&#x27;t really as big of a hit to my overall usage as I can just prepare a bunch of stuff to run in parallel when it does come back up.
    • Avicebron50 minutes ago
      I&#x27;m either extremely lucky or Dario ran the direct fiber to my house because I have never had it go down in any meaningful way..<p>Is this just the API and I&#x27;m too much of luddite to actually use the API?
      • 2ndorderthought38 minutes ago
        Dude dario definitely ran the fiber straight to your place personally. Everything is fine and this is such a good thing.
        • Avicebron23 minutes ago
          brother man, if everyone thinks claude sucks, then people won&#x27;t be on claude. QED. It will work.
    • elfly57 minutes ago
      Don&#x27;t say single nine, it sounds ugly and bad.<p>Say five eights of reliability. Maybe six.
      • inetknght55 minutes ago
        We&#x27;re talking about Claude, not GitHub...
    • pkulak56 minutes ago
      Not to mention substantially less open. I&#x27;ve been using an OpenAI subscription in Pi Agent for a couple weeks now and it&#x27;s great. And from what I can tell, 5.5 is a heck of a model.
    • OccamsMirror56 minutes ago
      Plus, they&#x27;ve dumbed down their models to the point where the value just isn&#x27;t there like it was. If I have to go in and clean up after it, or constantly wrestle with it through prompts, what&#x27;s the point? Just spending $200 a month to be frustrated at a machine.
    • Frannky51 minutes ago
      It&#x27;s lazy, does not take ownership and responsibility, wants to defer work, and I have to force it to check reality. It likes to guess and assume it&#x27;s correct and I am wrong. Agents.md is not helping at all. It&#x27;s in full enshittification phase, yay!
    • 2ndorderthought39 minutes ago
      Single nine has good vibes bro. It means when the service is up the results are better. I read about it in a blog. The model hallucinates way less. Even less than grok
  • jumploops1 hour ago
    Between GitHub and Claude, it seems Eternal December[0][1] is upon us.<p>[0]I say December, because that&#x27;s around the time the models got good enough that non-AI folks started to notice.<p>[1]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eternal_September" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eternal_September</a>
    • dmix55 minutes ago
      GitHub is a long running business with a mature software stack running into scaling issues while they move to Azure and becoming Microsoft-ified. Claude is a new company in a new market with an extremely fast growing userbase running relatively novel AI infrastructure with a business model they are still figuring out.<p>I don&#x27;t really blame Anthropic here.
    • zackify1 hour ago
      I use openai team plan whenever its down because its down so much lol
  • ossa-ma54 minutes ago
    I built a hangout space to chill out in and chat to others while Claude is down (which is happening wayyy more often): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;clawdpenguin.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;clawdpenguin.com</a><p>There&#x27;s a live Claude status board in the corner so you know when it&#x27;s time to get back to work.
  • sroussey57 minutes ago
    Oh great. My Max account has been borked for days, and now they will never get to it with everything else burning down.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;anthropics&#x2F;claude-code&#x2F;issues&#x2F;54497" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;anthropics&#x2F;claude-code&#x2F;issues&#x2F;54497</a>
  • hendler56 minutes ago
    With the TPU deal with Google and their relationship with Amazon they will have access compute coming online.<p>I worked with 4.6 and found some improvements for better planning and sustained us, but agree some posters 4.7 is slower, overthinking.<p>What I expect is frontier models to get bigger and more expensive (especially fast mode like on Cerberus). And most of his get much smaller distillations for the more generous subscription tiers.
  • minimaxir1 hour ago
    Odd time for Claude to go down since it&#x27;s not peak work hours.
    • neuronexmachina1 hour ago
      Maybe they target certain types of infra rollouts for non-peak hours?
    • rvz1 hour ago
      &quot;But humans do it too as they just cool off and check out for the rest of the day.&quot;<p>It&#x27;s fine for Claude to be unavailable when there is no work at these hours. However, the problem is Claude gave no notice.<p>At this rate, Claude being unavailable every day is no better than a human on a 9 - 5 working day job.
      • yakbarber57 minutes ago
        no it&#x27;s not, it&#x27;s always work hours somewhere
  • ahmadyan1 hour ago
    They are about to lose the second 9<p>99.02 % uptime
    • datadrivenangel1 hour ago
      98.68<p>Ouch.
      • llbbdd57 minutes ago
        Seems like a healthy human temperature to me. Maybe AGI has finally arrived.
  • boldi1 hour ago
    Yup, major outage on all platforms.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;status.claude.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;status.claude.com&#x2F;</a>
  • philipbjorge1 hour ago
    So happy to have diversified my model providers this past couple of weeks. GPT-5.5 has had no trouble slotting into Opus workloads. Will be fun to try out more of the models as time goes on to build some resiliency into my engineering workflows :).
    • fooster47 minutes ago
      I found GPT 5.4 terrible. I just tested 5.5 and compared with opus its still not great.
      • philipbjorge35 minutes ago
        What I found was that I *strongly* preferred Claude Code with its defaults. Codex was almost unusable to me -- It would spit out a 4-5 page plan where it kept repeating itself, where Claude would give me a crisp 1-2 pager I could actually review.<p>*But* I don&#x27;t work with the defaults -- I work with my own prompt framework based off of superpowers.<p>Given sufficient prompt scaffolding, I&#x27;ve found the models relatively interchangeable -- _I might_ be getting some of this for free by basing my own system off of superpowers which is used across various harnesses -- In other words achieving this kind of portability may be a lot harder than it looks and I&#x27;m benefiting from other people&#x27;s work.
      • wahnfrieden41 minutes ago
        In what harness?
  • bottlepalm32 minutes ago
    Anybody else double fist Codex&#x2F;Claude? They both code, solve problems, and find bugs in unique ways. I find using both is more useful than using either alone. I have them code review each others work, it&#x27;s great.
  • rishabhaiover1 hour ago
    This is insane. I have to move to Codex now.
  • furyofantares1 hour ago
    I don&#x27;t really mind hopping between claude&#x2F;codex&#x2F;glm&#x2F;kimi except I don&#x27;t know a good way to resume as session across agent harnesses.<p>Normally I&#x27;d just have it write out what it&#x27;s doing to a file, if I need to transfer context, but if it goes down mid-session that&#x27;s a no-go.<p>I think people have built tools for this, and of course you could reasonably vibe one yourself, but I don&#x27;t really trust something like that to work reliably or in an ongoing manner.<p>Maybe it should just be a skill.
    • alasano31 minutes ago
      switch to Pi.dev or any other multi model harness, you can switch between models every message if you feel like it.<p>Anthropic have blocked usage of your subscription however with third party harnesses.
      • furyofantares18 minutes ago
        &gt; Anthropic have blocked usage of your subscription however with third party harnesses.<p>This is the main reason I use different harnesses, but I also expect (could be wrong) codex is better with codex harness (due to training on it&#x27;s specific tools) than with other harnesses. I use opencode for everything that&#x27;s not claude&#x2F;codex.
    • philipbjorge59 minutes ago
      You might search for a concept like `&#x2F;handoff` that&#x27;s in ampcode. I&#x27;m sure someone&#x27;s built a skill for just this.
      • OccamsMirror46 minutes ago
        That&#x27;s not going to work if the service is down, however.
        • philipbjorge32 minutes ago
          Ahh good point -- I&#x27;ve handled this by switching my harness to `pi` but recognize that may not be for everyone and doesn&#x27;t directly address OP&#x27;s question.
    • serf59 minutes ago
      self hosted honcho (or other memory systems) and an api agnostic harness gets you most the way there.
    • datadrivenangel52 minutes ago
      kilocode allows you to switch between models mid session!
      • furyofantares45 minutes ago
        Yeah - it&#x27;s switching agents (harnesses) that&#x27;s the hard part!
  • avaer1 hour ago
    The models are already commoditized; if this affects you, you should probably fix your stack.<p>Still, it&#x27;s pretty crazy that Claude is down to 1 nine.
    • 2ndorderthought41 minutes ago
      Every day I am so much happier that I decided to go fully local for my needs.
  • galoisscobi1 hour ago
    But Boris declared coding is solved. How is this possible? Can’t they prompt Mythos to give them better uptime?
    • rvz56 minutes ago
      When Claude is making &quot;0 mistakes&quot;, all of his work is 100% done by Claude, therefore &quot;coding is solved!&quot; and we have more time to go on podcasts to tell everyone about it.<p>However, when there is an incident it is immediately &quot;human error&quot;, not Claude.<p>&gt; Can’t they prompt Mythos to give them better uptime?<p>Anthropic is currently &quot;vibe coding&quot; the situation right now.
  • Sabinus1 hour ago
    I&#x27;m feeling a bit sorry for Anthropic. This last month must be very tough on them.
    • throwatdem123111 hour ago
      Oh no won’t someone please think about the trillion dollar corporation!
      • kaycey202255 minutes ago
        Arent they just on the hook for trillion dollars
  • rvz1 hour ago
    So Claude decided to take the rest of the day off without notice or giving a scheduled time off?<p>Many such cases with humans (given that we continue to compare LLMs to humans these days which you cannot)
    • andai1 hour ago
      Introducing: Claude AWOL
  • lovvtide1 hour ago
    Working for me now
  • maplethorpe1 hour ago
    Humans are unavailable from time to time also.
  • winfredJa1 hour ago
    how can someone run business on top of their APIs
  • blurbleblurble58 minutes ago
    More fuel to get 27b running
  • o104493661 hour ago
    I&#x27;ve been on the $200 plan for 3 months, but this will be my last month. I got great use out of 4.5 for a while, but 4.6 felt like a half step back (conflated with all the random hidden config changes during it), and 4.7 is genuinely terrible.<p>It&#x27;s impossible to tell these days whether 4.7 is stuck because it&#x27;s thinking and Anthropic suppressed all output (seriously, 4.7 will just start making changes without explaining any reasoning - how is that an upgrade?) or because the underlying infrastructure is having issues.<p>4.5 -&gt; 4.7 feels like going from working with a coach-able, junior engineer that does well with clear guidance to working with a cocky mid-level that will spend too long on pointless tangents and make confidently incorrect changes without any discussion.
    • chillfox43 minutes ago
      4.6 has been excellent when used through the API. But I am right with you on 4.7, so I have been sticking to 4.6.
  • johndory801 hour ago
    Code isn’t working on my app. Chats work fine.
    • boldi1 hour ago
      I can&#x27;t even sign in, however.
      • 2ndorderthought40 minutes ago
        Is signing in actually necessary though? Think of the investors guys.
  • mrcwinn1 hour ago
    For what it’s worth, I moved to Codex GPT-5.5 Xhigh Fast in the desktop app and it’s been fantastic.
    • gardnr59 minutes ago
      Here is one source that agrees: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artificialanalysis.ai&#x2F;models&#x2F;capabilities&#x2F;coding" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;artificialanalysis.ai&#x2F;models&#x2F;capabilities&#x2F;coding</a>
    • ttul56 minutes ago
      I&#x27;ve been a Codex devotee since around last August. I don&#x27;t know why everyone is so bonkers about Claude Code. It&#x27;s not the only belle at the ball. Codex is rock solid.
  • 6Az4Mj4D1 hour ago
    Hoping to get another rest of limits.
  • neoecos1 hour ago
    Now... I have to cook dinner....
    • amarant1 hour ago
      Hurry! It&#x27;ll be back up any minute now!
  • peebee671 hour ago
    I personally broke it by admonishing it for fucking up its last revision to my project.
  • emersoftware1 hour ago
    wtf all days same shit
  • ehtbanton1 hour ago
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