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  • randycupertino1 hour ago
    &gt; they defrauded investors and lenders by fabricating &quot;virtually all&quot; of the now-bankrupt company&#x27;s customer relationships and revenue.<p>&gt; According to the indictment, the defendants used forged sham contracts to make it seem that iLearning&#x27;s customers were real, and used &quot;round trip&quot; transfers of investor and lender funds -- meaning they sent money to purported customers, who then returned it to iLearning -- to manufacture revenue.<p>&gt; At least 90% of iLearning&#x27;s $421 million of reported revenue in 2023 was fabricated, the indictment said.<p>&gt; The company went public in April 2024, and its market value on the Nasdaq peaked at $1.5 billion before a prominent short-seller questioned its reported revenue.<p>For the record the short sellers who blew up the fraud were Hindenburg Research. This is the second AI company they&#x27;ve discovered that is a scam, the other being Super Micro with their chip-selling scam: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;tylerroush&#x2F;2026&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;super-micro-shares-plunge-25-after-co-founder-charged-in-25-billion-ai-chip-smuggling-plot&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;tylerroush&#x2F;2026&#x2F;03&#x2F;20&#x2F;super-mic...</a>
    • HWR_1415 minutes ago
      &gt; &quot;round trip&quot; transfers of investor and lender funds -- meaning they sent money to purported customers, who then returned it to iLearning -<p>I thought a lot of public, high profile, AI adjacent sales were seller financed or financed by the seller investing in the purchaser. Is that the same thing?
      • dualityoftapirs4 minutes ago
        I think the issue here isn&#x27;t that they did seller financing but rather there was not an actual buyer at all.
    • walrus011 hour ago
      Supermicro isn&#x27;t an &quot;AI company&quot;, it&#x27;s a Taiwanese origin x86 server&#x2F;industrial&#x2F;embedded hardware manufacturer with roots that go back 30 years.
      • ethanwillis1 hour ago
        Unfortunately, in 2026 even shoe companies are &quot;AI companies&quot;
        • vrganj57 minutes ago
          We will never learn our lesson. Humanity just keeps repeating the same mistakes. Remember Long Island Ice Tea &#x2F; Blockchain?
          • ares62346 minutes ago
            A sucker is born everyday
  • yalogin30 minutes ago
    Unfortunately there is a real chance they get pardoned or just their cars dropped for a small sum of 1-5 million dinner.
  • nickpinkston58 minutes ago
    Play with fire, and you get burned...<p>These scams are all too frequent today, and putting these guys and others like them in prison would act as a deterrent.<p>We&#x27;ll see if our system can actually hold any white collar criminals accountable though...
    • jandrewrogers33 minutes ago
      A lot of these people do go to prison but know one pays attention long enough to notice.<p>This same scam was common during the dotcom boom in the 1990s. A lot of people went to prison but every generation needs to learn this lesson the hard way apparently.
  • gnabgib2 hours ago
    iLearningEngines .. hindenburg did some research <i>ILearningEngines: An AI SPAC with Artificial Partners and Artificial Revenue</i> (2 years ago) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41390619">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41390619</a>
    • shoo21 minutes ago
      Hindenburg Research is great. They also did the Nikola expose (that bunch of shysters who claimed to have electric truck technology where their truck couldn&#x27;t even move under its own power so they filmed it rolling down a gentle slope).<p>For anyone wanting to get into the weeds about detecting accounting fraud, the book &quot;Financial Shenanigans&quot; has lots of historical examples of ways company executives have cooked the books to make their public company financial statements appear more appealing to investors than they actually are.
    • dmix1 hour ago
      Federal investigations always take forever.
      • bandrami58 minutes ago
        It&#x27;s a real problem at this point. People still say &quot;nobody went to jail for the GFC&quot; even though over 200 people did in the US; it&#x27;s just it took a decade and nobody actually paid attention a decade later when they went to jail.
  • bandrami56 minutes ago
    If they arrest everyone who does a wash transaction to generate the appearance of revenue there aren&#x27;t going to be many founders left standing in 2026.
    • sharts47 minutes ago
      amd that’s probably good
  • mandeepj1 hour ago
    Using the right channels, they can buy a pardon. Let&#x27;s see how it unfolds.
    • da_chicken1 hour ago
      No, that seems unlikely. They committed the cardinal sin of stealing from the rich.
      • dylan60424 minutes ago
        Also probably why SBF is yet to be pardoned
        • wj9 minutes ago
          He was a big supporter of the Democratic Party which would not necessarily lead to a pardon with the Republican administration.
  • moomoo1124 minutes ago
    Why’s it almost always south asians scamming lately?<p>First it was hipsters, then weirdo geek freaks.
  • PedroBatista53 minutes ago
    It appears what really ended their little scam was the $421 million of reported revenue based on complete lies.<p>Because lying to investors about product hasn&#x27;t been really an issue lately, even Intel ~5 years ago did some presentations that were a complete fantasy back when they were desperate to keep their stock value but could not produce a chip smaller than 14nm.<p>If they prosecute CEOs based on lies to investors other than accounting, almost all AI startups would go down.
  • valianteffort1 hour ago
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    • miltava1 hour ago
      How many big fraud cases happened in the US over the last decade? I can think of many of them. Would u say that it’s a cultural thing in the US because of that? So ur statement is more about prejudice than anything.
    • hennell1 hour ago
      Someone call the Olympics because this is the largest jump I&#x27;ve ever seen.
    • himata41131 hour ago
      there&#x27;s x evil people per million in every country, india just happens to have a lot of people. china tends to keep things within their borders.
    • gnz111 hour ago
      I suppose it&#x27;s a cultural thing for Americans then too, given the current White House occupant? I don&#x27;t know, maybe every culture just has their share of shitty people.
      • mandeepj1 hour ago
        &gt; given the current White House occupant<p>Just listen to him speak from a podium in a red state while claiming <i>start of a golden age, revenue of $18 trillion from tariffs, and we won in Iran</i>, at least 50% of the crowd starts clapping. Makes me feel either I&#x27;m living in an alternate world or they are.