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  • buildbot41 minutes ago
    Blog post for people who prefer reading: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;04&#x2F;11&#x2F;implementing-pcie-over-fiber-using-sfp-modules&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;04&#x2F;11&#x2F;implementing-pcie-over-fiber...</a><p>While at a higher level, thunderbolt and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ExpEther" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ExpEther</a> can both of course work over fiber too!<p>(Q|O)SFP are basically just raw high speed serial interfaces to whatever - you see this a lot in FPGAs, you can use the QSFP interfaces for anything high speed - PCIe, SATA, HDMI…
    • dcrazy35 minutes ago
      &gt; Although we can already buy commercial transceiver solutions that allow us to use PCIe devices like GPUs outside of a PC, these use an encapsulating protocol like Thunderbolt rather than straight PCIe.<p>&gt; [snip]<p>&gt; As explained in the intro, this doesn’t come without a host of compatibility issues, least of all PCIe device detection, side-channel clocking and for PCIe Gen 3 its equalization training feature that falls flat if you try to send it over an SFP link.<p>So, uh… what’s the benefit? How much overhead does Thunderbolt really introduce, given it solves these other issues?
      • jmyeet1 minute ago
        The benefits are twofold: physical colocation and bandwidth.<p>Thunderbolt 5 offers 80Gbps of bidirectional bandwidth. PCIe 5.0 16x offers 1024Gbps of bidirectional bandwidth. This matters.<p>TB5 cables can only get so long whereas fiber can go much farther more easily. This means that in a data center type environment, you could virtualize your GPUs and attach them as necessary, putting them in a separate bank (probably on the same rack).
  • ahepp4 minutes ago
    How does this compare to something like RDMA over Converged Ethernet (RoCE)?
  • mmastrac1 hour ago
    This was a super interesting video to watch. I honestly thought SFP required more setup, but this explains why AliExpress is so ripe with USB3 and HDMI over SFP converters that are dirt cheap.
  • fl4regun1 hour ago
    Cool project! PCIe itself I think is likely to end up doing something similar soon, there are provisions in the spec now for optical retimers.
  • russdill57 minutes ago
    There&#x27;s a number of optical modules for TB3 and TB4, might be an easier (but less fun) route as TB3 and TB4 can carry PCIe.
  • whalesalad56 minutes ago
    So you&#x27;re saying I can put a handful of 4090&#x27;s out in the middle of snowy Michigan with a handful of OM4 cables snaking into my basement to run legit arctic cooling with no noise?
    • myself2486 minutes ago
      No part of Michigan is in the arctic, but sure, outside of mosquito season, that would work.
    • preisschild26 minutes ago
      Might as well put your entire computer outside and use thunderbolt&#x2F;usb-4 over fiber docks
    • phendrenad228 minutes ago
      Watercooling loop light be better, the radiator fins will still rust from condensation.
    • benjojo1225 minutes ago
      I mean yes, but you could also just place the entire computer out there as well
  • dyheueiigd1 hour ago
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