15 comments

  • wiether36 minutes ago
    People may feel differently about the fee that OpenRouter takes, but I think the service they provide is worth the extra cost.<p>Having access to dozens of models through a single API key, tracking cost of each request, being able to run the same request on different models and comparing their results next to each other, separating usages through different API keys, adding your own presets, setting your routing rules...<p>And once you start using an account with multiple users, it&#x27;s even more useful to have all those features!<p>Not relying on a subscription and having the right to do exactly what you want with your API key (using it with any tool&#x2F;harness...) is also a big plus to me.
    • pixel_popping11 minutes ago
      Expect you don&#x27;t have the right to do what you want with the API Key (see waves of ban lately, many SaaS services have closed because of it).
      • embedding-shape8 minutes ago
        Unless you provide some more details, at least outline what &quot;do what you want&quot; was in your case, this seems like just straight up FUD.
  • pixel_popping14 minutes ago
    It should be noted about Openrouter that you aren&#x27;t allowed to expose the access to end users, it has to be for internal usage only, which can be fatal as they have made waves of account banning lately (without warnings).
  • delduca8 minutes ago
    I also dropped Claude Code Max.<p>I switched to OpenCode Zen + GitHub Copilot. For some reason, Claude Code burns through my quota really quickly.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opencode.ai&#x2F;zen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opencode.ai&#x2F;zen</a>
    • woutr_be3 minutes ago
      How does Claude Code compare to OpenCode Zen? I’m on the $20&#x2F;month Claude plan, and was considering OpenCode Zen as well.<p>Due to the quota changes, I actually find myself using Claude less and less
  • ElFitz35 minutes ago
    Has anyone (other than OpenClaw) used pi? (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shittycodingagent.ai&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shittycodingagent.ai&#x2F;</a>, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pi.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pi.dev&#x2F;</a>)<p>Any insights &#x2F; suggestions &#x2F; best practices?
    • simgt15 minutes ago
      Yes, it&#x27;s super cool. Check Mario&#x27;s latest talk: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Dli5slNaJu0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Dli5slNaJu0</a> Armin also has some videos covering it on his channel: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@ArminRonacher&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@ArminRonacher&#x2F;</a> Pi&#x27;s Discord is still nice, even though it was a bit flooded after the openclaw thing.
  • supernes24 minutes ago
    On the topic of Zed itself as a VSCode replacement - my experience is mixed. I loved it at first, but with time the papercuts add up. The responsiveness difference isn&#x27;t that big on my system, but Zed&#x27;s memory usage (with the TS language server in particular) is scandalous. As far as DX goes it&#x27;s probably at 85% of the level VSCode provides, but in this space QoL features matter a lot. Oh, and it still can&#x27;t render emojis in buffers on Linux...
  • _pdp_19 minutes ago
    Our bank (a major retail bank in UK) is refusing doing business with OpenRouter and OpenRouter issued a refund which we did not request. So something is up. There is that.<p>I might be paranoid but I feel that access to models will become more constraint in the future as the industry gets more regulated.
  • cbg032 minutes ago
    I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s currently better value than Github&#x27;s $40 plan which gives you access to GPT5 &amp; Claude variants. It&#x27;s pay per request so not ideal for back-and-forth but great for building complex features on the cheap compared to paying per token.<p>Because GH is accessing the API behind the scenes, you should face less degradation when using Sonnet&#x2F;Opus models compared to a Claude subscription.<p>Keep a ChatGPT $20 subscription alongside for back-and-forth conversations and you&#x27;ll get great bang for buck.
    • neya8 minutes ago
      Is your source code worth only $40 for them to train their models on?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techradar.com&#x2F;pro&#x2F;bad-news-skeptics-github-says-it-will-employ-user-data-to-train-its-ai-after-all" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techradar.com&#x2F;pro&#x2F;bad-news-skeptics-github-says-...</a>
      • cbg06 minutes ago
        Considering how much data they already have from everything that&#x27;s on GitHub, I doubt you would make a dent boycotting their AI product.
    • rafaelmn16 minutes ago
      I&#x27;m still paying the 10$ GH copilot but I don&#x27;t use it because :<p><pre><code> - context is aggressively trimmed compared to CC obviously for cost saving reasons, so the performance is worse - the request pricing model forces me to adjust how I work </code></pre> Just these alone are not worth saving the 60$&#x2F;month for me.<p>I like the VSCode integration and the MCP&#x2F;LSP usage surprised me sometimes over the dumb grep from CC. Ironically VSCode is becoming my terminal emulator of choice for all the CLI agents - SSH&#x2F;container access and the automatic port mapping, etc. - it&#x27;s more convenient than tmux sessions for me. So Copilot would be ideal for me but yeah it&#x27;s just tweaked for being budget&#x2F;broad scope tool rather than a tool for professionals that would pay to get work done.
  • bashtoni40 minutes ago
    After hitting Claude limits today I spent the afternoon using OpenCode + GLM 5.1 via OpenRouter and I was very impressed.<p>OpenCode picked up my CLAUDE.md files and skills straight away, and I got similar performance to Opus 4.6.
  • urnfjrkrkn33 minutes ago
    I would suggest to explore paid plans on different providers. Much better value than plans bundled with editors or API based usage in openrouter. And Chinese companies have versions hosted in Singapore or US.<p>Also ditching Claude Code is mistake. It is quite capable model, and still great value. I would keep it, even if it&#x27;s just for code reviews and planning. Anthropic allows pro plans use in Zed.
  • philipp-gayret45 minutes ago
    I like and do use Zed but be aware functionality like Hooks is not supported for their integration with Claude Code, as a heavy user of Hooks I would stick with the terminal.
    • kisamoto43 minutes ago
      I&#x27;m always interested in how people use tools. I like to have a full editor to review code as a complement to the CLI and as I don&#x27;t often use hooks the integration is also good enough for me.<p>1. What do you use the hooks for?<p>2. Do you use an editor alongside the CLI to review code or only examine the diffs?
  • Computer01 hour ago
    I have had credits on open router that haven’t been deleted since near the projects launch, I believe 365 days is not a rule but rather a right reserved.
    • numlocked36 minutes ago
      COO of OpenRouter here. Thats right — we haven’t done it to date but we can’t have unlimited liabilities stacking up forever. At some point we will start expiring credits from accounts that have seen zero activity in over a year.
      • kisamoto21 minutes ago
        Thank you for taking the time to explain that - makes sense. I lifted what was present in your terms of service as I&#x27;d like to understand the minimum time I have.
  • hhthrowaway12301 hour ago
    note: doesn&#x27;t openrouter charge 5.5% fee?
    • kisamoto1 hour ago
      You are absolutely correct, I was not aware of this. I will update the article accordingly and perhaps it&#x27;s more worthwhile to stay solely on Cursor with the limited models.<p>Sadly Zed seems to add 10% so it&#x27;s still more worthwhile to use OpenRouter.
      • cedws19 minutes ago
        I feel like a bit of an idiot because I didn’t know this either. I just assumed OR was another startup burning money to provide models at cost.<p>OpenRouter is a valuable service but I’ll probably try to run my own router going forward.
      • Kelteseth55 minutes ago
        Come on at least write the Hackernews replies yourself.
        • kisamoto46 minutes ago
          I did. Perhaps too much consumption of AI responses but articles and engagement are written by me - a human.
          • cbg017 minutes ago
            That&#x27;s exactly what a clanker would say. ^&#x2F;s
        • glitchcrab19 minutes ago
          Only the opening sentence has an AI smell; the rest is definitely written by a fleshy meatbag
  • Computer01 hour ago
    When I use the tool ccusage it says I use $600 of usage a month for my $100. I don’t know that this is a good value proposition for me if I want to stay with the same model, half the reason I use Claude code, personally.
    • vanillameow5 minutes ago
      I ran this just now and for a small web-app I built I used over $50 in a single day. This was using superpowers plugin and almost exclusively coordinating through Opus. Could I get by with 100$ a month without the subscription? Maybe, but I pay for the convenience of just being able to throw Opus with lavish plugins at it (with 5h limits that are, in my opinion, pretty reasonable). I don&#x27;t really WANT to have to think about when Haiku or Sonnet are enough.<p>If anything I would consider switching to OpenAI subscription (if I didn&#x27;t despise them even more than Anthropic as a company), but converting to API use seems completely infeasible to me. I&#x27;d have to severely cut back on my use for not much benefit, other than having maybe an agent thats a little less jank than CC.
    • blitzar55 minutes ago
      &gt; Reallocating $100&#x2F;Month Claude Code Spend<p>The new gimped claude code limits means my claude code spend the last month is $131. It cost me $20. I did an additional spend $5 on extra usage which cost me $5.<p>While VC&#x27;s are setting fire to money I am going to warm my hands.
  • i_love_retros34 minutes ago
    I can&#x27;t believe people are spending $100 a month on this! You&#x27;re all mad!
    • gozzoo32 minutes ago
      some are spending 100&#x2F;day or even 1000&#x2F;day. they must really be mad :)
      • i_love_retros30 minutes ago
        Drunk on perceived power
        • nubg22 minutes ago
          Your ignorance is our opportunity :)
  • Serberus52 minutes ago
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