We've officially come full circle<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224</a>
at the risk of a comment that doesn't age well, for most people on HN I would definitely look into just using rclone. I also has a GUI for people who want that. rclone is mind-blowingly good. You can set up client-side encryption (so object storage never sees the data or even the filename) to be seamless. I'm a huge fan
Every so often someone is like, Dropbox isn’t that hard. Look at this amazing ZFS/whatever! So simple. Yeah, I keep paying Dropbox every year so I don’t have to think about it. I shoot a sync off to backblaze every once in a while.
Hah, wow. A post with an ID under 10k. Meanwhile this one is over 47M.<p>I didn't realize I've been reading HN nearly its whole existence. For all my complaining about what's happened to the internet since those days, HN has managed to stay high quality without compromising.
I think a big reason is you are not notified when someone replies to your comment. It reduces heated back and forth arguments.
At least, here the biases are well known. I have been here since the beginning as well. :)
this is cloud to different cloud thing not physical to cloud thing tho
The critical part of Dropbox is not just the storage layer but a combination of their client and server. Even small things like how do you handle conflicting writes to the same file from multiple threads, matter a great deal for data consistency and durability.
A lot of the backend bucket providers can handle file versioning.<p>I too would like the answer to this concern because the features page doesn’t mention it. I want to be able to handle file version history.<p>I’m currently using Filen which I find very reasonable and, critically, it has a Linux client. But I wish it was faster and I wish the local file explorer integration was more like Dropbox where it is seamless to the OS rather than the current setup where you mount a network share.
The selling point of Dropbox/Google Drive isn't the storage itself, but that there's app for mobile and desktop operating systems which deeply integrates it in the OS so it's just like a local folder that's magically synced.<p>So it's a cool project, but not really what I'd say is a Dropbox replacement.
On the other hand when a Dropbox user shares a file with you these days, the nudges have so gotten out of hand that it's a pain to use.
We can just all use rsync, no need for an app.
Until I want to share with say… anyone that isn’t on HN :)
Yep, I use rsync to sync files / directories between my desktop, laptop and even phone (Android). Also an external drive.<p>I ended up creating <a href="https://github.com/nickjj/bmsu" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/nickjj/bmsu</a> which calls rsync under the hood but helps you build up a valid rsync command with no surprises. It also codifies each of you backup / restore strategies so you're not having to run massively long rsync commands each time.<p>Nothing leaves my local network since it's all local file transfers.
<a href="https://syncthing.net/" rel="nofollow">https://syncthing.net/</a> <- like this :)<p>Free, opensource, works on computers and phones, can in most cases puncture nat, supports local discovery (lan, multicast).<p>No googles, no dropboxes, no clouds, no AI training, no "my kid likes the wrong video on youtube, now our whole family lost access to every google account we had, so we lost everything, including family photos", just sync!<p>(not affiliated, just really love the software)
This is my go to solution for code sync across macOS laptop, Windows VMs, and Linux VMs to build and run/debug across environments. Unless something has changed, exclusions of build artifacts was always an issue with cloud sync providers.
I have been doing more cross compilation on macOS, copy and run on those other machines lately for prototypes, but for IDE based debugging it’s great to edit local or remote and get it all synced to the machine to run it in seconds.
Isn't that the scenario for Nextcloud?
Yep. Open source Dropbox is really Nextcloud - <a href="https://nextcloud.com" rel="nofollow">https://nextcloud.com</a>
Why would I want to replace my reliance on them with reliance on Amazon or another cloud provider?<p>I'd rather control the whole stack, even if it means deploying my own hardware to one or more redundant, off-site locations.<p>Edit: Are there robust, open source, self-hosted, S3-compliant engines out there reliable and performant enough to be the backend for this?
Neat! Pricing wise it might not always make sense though to use the commercial blob storages, especially for solo usage.<p>1 TB is roughly 20-30 USD per month at AWS/GCP only in storage, plus traffic and operations. R2 is slightly cheaper and includes traffic.<p>Compared to e.g a Google AI plan where you get 5 TB storage for the same price (25 USD/month) + Gemini Pro thrown in.
May I recommend the excellent <a href="https://s3drive.app/" rel="nofollow">https://s3drive.app/</a> which is compatible with S3 and also providers like Proton Drive
Absolutely not. The value isn't in the cloud storage. The value is in the client (DropBox in my case) seamlessly working across all my devices.
I pay Dropbox $120 per year for 2TB. No transfer fees, solid Apps, macOS integration, free APIs.<p>How much on S3? A LOT more.
Just saying, but this is not really fair. It's not like you use that 2TB. So you shouldn't compare it to a 2TB bucket. Most of these plans have limits to prevent abuse but they're well beyond the 'I need to care' level.<p>Maybe you use 1TB, maybe just 10GB. As a user on this site I expect you know that a 10GB plan and a 1TB plan won't be that much different.
I think the idea is any s3 compatible api endpoint can be used. The code also clearly supports both backblaze, and more importantly, local blob storage
I use archive storage class on google cloud, to store old movies and wedding videos, pictures of old vacations.<p>For everything else I use paid onedrive subscription.
The biggest problem is user interface with s3 like storage and predictable pricing. Every year or so I roll over data into the bucket.<p>But for infrequently accessed data its fine.
Looks like a good light weight solution to front object storage with a front end and auth. One suggestion is to add the license to the repo. The readme says License: MIT, but there’s no license file.
I bought 35$/mo 16TB server from OVH. I am running 2 replicas of Garage, one on this server. I am using this for backup for now but probably I will also move my Nextcloud files there and websites. This is fine for now and less pricey than any S3 provider I was able to find.
That is a bit like saying “Don’t use a medical analysis app, just interpret your lab results yourself.”<p>Sure, ChatGPT can help, but to use it reliably, you still need enough medical knowledge to ask good questions and evaluate the answers.
Very cool idea, but without background file syncing from/to my local machine, it can't replace my cloud storage provider.
I'd love a local offline alternative, maybe I'll get AI to build it for me
I wonder if it would be possible to do something like this that had transparent end-to-end encryption.
this is rlly cool
Why not just use an FTP server?
Just don't spin up your machines in Bahrain or the UAE...
what am i missing?
Probaly this : <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/1rl8rxw/aws_datacenter_in_dubai_was_hit/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/1rl8rxw/aws_datacenter...</a>
It’s a reference to Iran attacking AWS data centres in those countries.
Iran made those AWS data centers... unhappy.<p>The comment is disingenuous, though, since Locker doesn't need AWS S3 to function.
What happens if the server disappears permanently and only the bucket is up?
Another option is <a href="https://github.com/drakkan/sftpgo" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/drakkan/sftpgo</a><p>This is in Go, exposes both webdav and SFTP servers, with user and admin web interfaces. You can configure remotes, then compose user space from various locations for each user, some could be local, others remote.
"Stop paying for Dropbox/Google Drive, pay for an S3 bucket instead"
Stop paying for clothes, make your own instead!
S3 is costly and carries significant political baggage.<p>For a better alternative, run MinIO on a cloud provider of your choice, or stick with a secure option like Proton Drive.
Suggesting MinIO as an alternative to something with "significant political baggage" seems weird given the recent rug pull?
> S3 is costly<p>> run MinIO<p>When people say "s3", they mean "any s3 compatible storage" in my experience, not "amazon s3 specifically" or just "s3 as a protocol".
See also: <a href="https://github.com/Barre/ZeroFS" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/Barre/ZeroFS</a><p>Doesn’t require an external database (just a s3 bucket) and is a single binary. A webui is shipping in the next few days.
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