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  • glenstein4 days ago
    I jumped into the book after hearing all the buzz as it seemed like the big scifi hit of 2025. Killer premise and for the most part the fast pacing works... for the first third or so. But it you can feel the short story anthology vibe as it goes on and becomes practically a disconnected series of vignettes, and even the central idea itself loses cohesion. The Big Bad Thing has so many manifestations that it feels like monster of the week rather than a true full book that holds onto a core sharply executed identity. Less a grand thesis than a series of isolated short form thrills.<p>So the long and short of it is, definitely worth it for the first third and dimishing returns after that.<p>As for the short film, I think it&#x27;s great for what it is, gets better and better as it goes and is worth the short watch. Fascinating seeing the visual depictions of the stuff the book talks about both foreground and background.
    • MattPalmer10864 hours ago
      I actually liked all of it. It&#x27;s slightly more cohesive than the original writing on the SCP website, which is structured as a series of short thematically linked reports. I get that style won&#x27;t appeal to everyone though.<p>Still one of the more original bits of sci fi &#x2F; horror to be published in a while, so a strong recommendation from me!
    • jhbadger5 hours ago
      I also didn&#x27;t think it was quite as good as it was hyped to be, but as someone who has long been into the web-based SCP stuff, I did appreciate how the book is introducing SCP to a wider audience.
    • Eddy_Viscosity21 hour ago
      I read it based on a reddit search for &#x27;good sci fi books&#x27; and that&#x27;s it. Going in with no hype or expectations and I thought it was great.<p>PS. HNers, any good sci-fi book recommendations?
      • alexpotato46 minutes ago
        A write up review of books I&#x27;ve read and there are a couple scifi books (and a bunch of other recommendations) here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;alexpotato.com&#x2F;books&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;alexpotato.com&#x2F;books&#x2F;</a>
      • mugwumprk1 hour ago
        “Service Model” is a recent one and I had an absolute blast with it. If you don’t have much of a humanities background, you’d benefit from skimming the Wikipedia article. There’s a lot of references to old novels you might miss if you don’t have the context.
    • brson4 hours ago
      I felt similar about the book. The premise was thrilling, but as it went on it seemed to succumb to typical genre tropes, ending didn&#x27;t deliver.
    • silenced_trope6 hours ago
      True, the first third had some mystery to it. The rest was kind of mediocre as far as sci-fi goes.
  • Kim_Bruning3 days ago
    Oh wow, They filmed it! Twice even!<p>hn discussion about the written versions<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41224225">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41224225</a><p>A different version by different director&#x2F;actors:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=w-IiVeGAydE" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=w-IiVeGAydE</a>
    • Cthulhu_23 minutes ago
      What do you mean? There is no antimemetics film.
    • tantalor23 minutes ago
      Did they forget it was already filmed once?
    • jojobas2 hours ago
      I bet they filmed it way more than twice.
      • ricksunny2 hours ago
        I never thought much of Adrian Gage as a director anyway
      • actionfromafar36 minutes ago
        twice... <i>in the last 15 minutes</i>.
  • decimalenough4 hours ago
    The originals:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scp-wiki.wikidot.com&#x2F;antimemetics-division-hub" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scp-wiki.wikidot.com&#x2F;antimemetics-division-hub</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;There_Is_No_Antimemetics_Division" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;There_Is_No_Antimemetics_Divis...</a>
  • coldtea4 hours ago
    Did anybody else find the original story mediocre stuff? Interesting premise, but neither novel nor that deep. PKD has done 100x with much less.
    • throw31082216 minutes ago
      I did find the introductory short story (this one) brilliant, as it&#x27;s short, shows a clever and surprising inversion of roles midway, but especially because the premise- antimemetics- is actually extremely interesting. I even wonder if it has been developed seriously- I mean the study of antimemes as a communication&#x2F; propaganda technique.<p>It&#x27;s true that the whole novel, despite a few good moments, seems mostly interested in plot and entertainment. Having read quite a bit of qntm&#x27;s stuff online, I&#x27;d say he excels in the short story format where he can quickly present a clever or surprising idea and there isn&#x27;t the need to sustain a plot or work on character development etc.<p>Anyway, comparing a random author to one of the best and most influential sci-fi authors ever is a bit pointless, don&#x27;t you think?
    • Nition4 hours ago
      I really liked it and all the little interesting ideas within it, like the antimimetic worms that live everywhere. I actually found it very creative and clever. However, I didn&#x27;t think the recent rewrite was as much of an improvement as others seem to. The later parts were improved but I thought some of the padding out of earlier parts arguably came out worse.<p>---<p>Edit:<p>To give an actual example, Marion&#x27;s description in the original, from the scene in the video:<p><i>She is turning fifty this year and slowly greying, well on her way out of &quot;petite&quot; towards &quot;little old lady&quot;.</i><p>In the updated edition:<p><i>She turns fifty this year. She is diminutive and flint-eyed, very dark-haired but rapidly greying. Today, her hair is strictly pulled back and up into a silver clasp. She wore her good suit for this, one button, very dark grey, with a solid blue blouse underneath. Ankle boots with stout heels, two silver stud earrings in each lobe. Contact lenses, not the usual glasses. On a lanyard around her neck she wears a security pass with a bright orange and red diagonal stripe.</i><p>Two uses of &#x27;very dark&#x27; right after each other? And I actually liked how snappy the original was but that might be just me.<p>Another line in this first chapter that I love from the original:<p><i>&quot;What…&quot; O5-8 asks carefully, &quot;would happen if we</i> did <i>know?&quot;</i><p>becomes in the new edition:<p><i>&quot;What…&quot; Mahlo asks carefully, &quot;would happen if we did know what happened to him?&quot;</i><p>Why pad that out? It sounds less natural now.
      • johnke3 hours ago
        There were also some examples of sloppy editing in the updated edition, like multiple uses of the word &quot;perimetre&quot; which the author acknowledges was an &#x27;incautious find-and-replace from the US English &quot;meter&quot; to UK English &quot;metre&quot;&#x27; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qntm.org&#x2F;antimemetics#komment6913d2eb6c240" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qntm.org&#x2F;antimemetics#komment6913d2eb6c240</a>
        • ethmarks37 minutes ago
          Which is especially odd because the author (Sam Hughes) lives in the UK and wrote the original in UK English, but apparently wrote the rewrite in US English. For example, a chapter in the original was titled &quot;Case Colourless Green&quot;, but in the US edition of the rewrite that chapter is &quot;Case Colorless Green&quot; (without the &#x27;u&#x27;). So Hughes, a native UK English speaker, wrote the rewrite in a non-native (to him) dialect, then had it (lazily) translated into his native dialect.
    • pinkmuffinere4 hours ago
      I loved the ideas! The premise was novel to me, and I also don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve encountered the same idea since (except for in reference to the original story). I&#x27;m not a fan of the writing style though. It&#x27;s very stiff and heavy-handed, as if the writer&#x27;s only goal is to setup the next twist. But I can&#x27;t complain that much, it reminds me a lot of my own writing.
    • axus2 hours ago
      My standard for website fiction is lower. When you&#x27;re unknown, there&#x27;s less pressure to go through a long editing cycle. Pale and SEEK have been good though.<p>Would not consider myself well-read, if I read enough PKD stories I could probably find some mediocre ones; really liked the popular ones I did read.
    • tgv1 hour ago
      I thought the short movie was also mediocre. It should have been much shorter.
    • pwdisswordfishy4 hours ago
      Indeed, it works fine as an introduction to a longer series, but on its own feels pretty unfulfilling.<p>I think the story where she detains her own husband would work much better in a stand-alone adaptation.
  • world2vec2 hours ago
    I just finished the book and it did not live up to all its hype. Quite boring, actually.
  • lowbloodsugar3 days ago
    Jasika will always be Astrid from Fringe. In my head, Helen Hunt plays wheeler.
  • jmcgough5 hours ago
    Read this as &quot;antiemetics&quot; (anti-nausea meds like Zofran) and was very confused for a moment.
  • SideburnsOfDoom4 hours ago
    Was this authorised by QNTM?
    • GCUMstlyHarmls3 hours ago
      I think all SCP content is creative commons share alike (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;creativecommons.org&#x2F;licenses&#x2F;by-sa&#x2F;3.0&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;creativecommons.org&#x2F;licenses&#x2F;by-sa&#x2F;3.0&#x2F;</a>), so I don&#x27;t think he actually needs to -- assuming this is based on SCP and not the book. I know the book had some revisions done to make it legally distinct from the SCP stories for copyright purposes.
    • v9v2 hours ago
      In one of the youtube comments the director says that they contacted the author and got permission.