14 comments

  • brunohaid52 minutes ago
    Scott Purdue has a couple of good videos on the incident <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;@flywirescottperdue" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;@flywirescottperdue</a><p>A pilot not trained well on visually IDing some of the most common military planes would be quite a training lapse.
  • JasonADrury18 minutes ago
    &quot;Fighter jet pilot&quot; is a really cool job.<p>Guess who gets the cool jobs in these countries? Typically not the most highly motivated individuals, but the children of influential people who pull strings to make it happen.<p>Guess how easy it&#x27;s to fire those people when they don&#x27;t pay that much attention during training?
    • sschueller14 minutes ago
      Cool job? Being ordered to drop bombs on schools filled with children doesn&#x27;t seems like a cool job..
      • JasonADrury6 minutes ago
        I&#x27;ll spell it out: A lot of air force pilots in these countries end up being rich kids who do it because it&#x27;s a fun hobby, not motivated soldiers.<p>Because many of these people see it as a fun hobby, they don&#x27;t spend much time worrying about potentially being ordered to drop bombs on schools filled with children. It&#x27;s rather unlikely that their government would order them to do so anyway, compare a list of countries being hit by Iran with a list of countries bombing Iran.
  • krona1 hour ago
    The Kuwaiti air force doesn&#x27;t use F-15E. The F-15E looks quite similar to the Iranian Mig-29 especially from above. I&#x27;ve got no idea how Kuwaiti fast jet pilots are trained but it&#x27;s not inconceivable that pilot had never seen an F-15E in the flesh before.
    • inaros50 minutes ago
      &gt;&gt; it&#x27;s not inconceivable that pilot had never seen an F-15E in the flesh before.<p>This is such a joke I cant even imagine how you can formulate this thought...<p>- Exercise Marauder Shield 26.1 (Nov. 2025) &quot;U.S. Air Force F-15E Strike Eagle aircraft assigned to the 391st Expeditionary Fighter Squadron takeoff during Exercise Marauder Shield in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility, Nov. 8, 2025. A key element of the exercise was the sharpening of combined fighter capabilities between the U.S. and <i>Kuwait Air Forces</i>. This included joint training exercises and hot-pit refueling operations.&quot;<p>- CENTCOM Bomber Task Force mission (July 2022)<p>&quot;..During the BTF, two B-52H Stratofortresses, assigned to the U.S. Air Force Global Strike Command, conducted theater integration training and operations with a variety of U.S. Air Force, partner and ally aircraft, including F-15&#x2F;18, RJ-135, E-3, KC-135&#x2F;10&#x2F;46, FGR-4, and A-330...&quot;<p>&quot;The bombers’ flight originated at Royal Air Force (RAF) Fairford, England, and flew over the Eastern Mediterranean, Arabian Peninsula and Red Sea before departing the region. The mission included fighter escorts from the Royal Air Force and the <i>Air Forces of Kuwait</i> and Saudi Arabia....&quot;<p>&quot;...“Communication is critical,” said Wong, who also serves as the Deputy Director of Combat Operations, Combined Air Operations Center. “By enhancing lines of communication, we are able to establish a clear and direct line in real time amongst the Air Operations Centers of all nations participating...&quot;
      • toast028 minutes ago
        &gt; A key element of the exercise was the sharpening of combined fighter capabilities between the U.S. and Kuwait Air Forces<p>Well, the Kuwaitis seem pretty sharp? Three shootdowns is a lot in the modern era. The F-22 program only has two air to air kills in its whole history.
        • ericmay11 minutes ago
          &gt; Well, the Kuwaitis seem pretty sharp?<p>Do they? If they shot down 3 friendly aircraft that would be a catastrophically stupid mistake which would imply they are, in fact, not that sharp (or at least this specific unit and chain of command).<p>&gt; The F-22 program only has two air to air kills in its whole history<p>A very poor comparison point given that the F-22 has had limited opportunities for engagement. And just a poor comparison overall.
    • lumost53 minutes ago
      Given Kuwaiti air force pilots would have dealt with Saudi&#x2F;US&#x2F;Iraqi F-15 operators, that seems highly unlikely.
    • nradov52 minutes ago
      Kuwaiti air force F&#x2F;A-18 pilots receive most of their training in the USA so most likely they would have seen some F-15 model in flight. That doesn&#x27;t rule out a case of target misidentification but it&#x27;s very odd and suspicious.
    • sheikhnbake59 minutes ago
      That would be a pretty huge GCI failure
    • sidewndr4643 minutes ago
      I do not know how F-18 controls work but from what I understand lots of jet controls include the equivalent of a &quot;safety&quot; that can be used to prevent the weapon from being launched. Maybe the pilot thought he had it engaged?<p>The secondary thing here I&#x27;ve realized is that the missiles in question must not have been using active homing. If they were then the pilots of the US aircraft would have taken evasive action as soon as their radar warning receiver lit up.
      • mig3930 minutes ago
        That could explain one accidental shootdown. It cannot conceivably explain three.
        • altairprime14 minutes ago
          How easy is it in an F-15E to modify a friend to a foe in the targeting systems?
  • usui1 hour ago
    What did the videos originally link to? It just shows &quot;Sorry, this post is no longer available.&quot;
    • p_ing1 hour ago
      That’s you ad blocker. They’re still up.
    • andrewflnr1 hour ago
      Sometimes it&#x27;ll show that while the embed is still loading.
  • tokai3 minutes ago
    Maybe someone had a juicy bet on a prediction market.
  • alberth19 minutes ago
    &gt; <i>This is the latest video to have emerged from the extraordinary incident earlier this week in which a Kuwaiti Air Force F&#x2F;A-18 Hornet was responsible for shooting down three U.S. Air Force F-15E Strike Eagles.</i><p>Why is the US using such dated planes?
    • ericmay8 minutes ago
      F-15E Strike Eagles have advanced avionics and can and continue to use advanced missiles. They can serve in multiple roles including target identification, aerial combat, and of course air-to-air interception and ground attack roles.<p>Same thing with the F-18.<p>Eventually of course all of these weapons platforms will be phased out, but for the time being they are still extremely useful, and even more so after the more advanced aircraft and other attack vectors have taken out or limited air defense capabilities or the ability for enemy aircraft to intercept these aircraft. Not that they can&#x27;t handle their own, anyway.
    • nradov13 minutes ago
      Much of the F-15E fleet is still in relatively good condition. Most other airframes are even older on average. Over the past couple decades most funding went to more urgent GWOT priorities and almost everything else was under capitalized to the point where older aircraft are literally cracking and falling apart.
    • Jtsummers9 minutes ago
      These aircraft are maintained pretty well. They have explicit refresh cycles where they&#x27;re taken to depots and pretty much torn apart and then rebuilt. The electronics also get refreshed over time with newer components (not just newer versions of old components or refurbished components, but new electronics and computer systems). It&#x27;s not like they&#x27;re still frozen in time at whatever version was initially put out 50 years ago.
    • lenerdenator4 minutes ago
      The F-15E has received several service upgrades in its lifetime and has served as the base platform for most F-15 variants sold to other nations over the last decade or so. It&#x27;s far from dated. They make new ones in St. Louis.
    • UltraSane18 minutes ago
      Because they still work.
  • cozzyd1 hour ago
    Probably testing grok-based targeting system.
  • EtienneDeLyon1 hour ago
    Two more kills and that pilot will be an ace!
  • skibz25 minutes ago
    How much time elapsed between each aircraft being hit?
  • samrus37 minutes ago
    &gt; Another fighter pilot’s analysis, seen in video below, questions whether the Kuwaiti pilot might even have gone rogue against an ally. That actually seems possible based on the evidence, but it is hard to believe.<p>I get the concern, but i would remmeber to attribute it to incompetance rather than malice. And from my understanding, there is no shorten of incompetance among gulf arab militaries
  • Stevvo34 minutes ago
    Article explains how quick and easy it is to fire the missiles, with no information to identify friend from foe.<p>Then it jumps to incredulity that it could happen 3 times.<p>I don&#x27;t know why it&#x27;s so hard to imagine someone pulling a trigger 3 times.
    • sheikhnbake14 minutes ago
      The first could have been a mistake. It happening three times is crazy because ground control should have been in the pilots ear the entire time trying to de-conflict.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if the Kuwaiti Air Force switches to ground controlled intercept only after this.
  • DarkmSparks1 hour ago
    My theory is Iran is jamming the link16 iff.
    • esseph0 minutes ago
      [delayed]
    • monster_truck50 minutes ago
      Saw some unsubstantiated claims that the planes shot down didn&#x27;t even have it on
  • Bratmon32 minutes ago
    I know American pilots think that Kuwait is on their side, but is their any evidence that Kuwaiti pilots think they&#x27;re on America&#x27;s side?
    • asadm29 minutes ago
      They have handed over their sovereignty to US forces to help kill their Muslim brethren. You want them to prove some more loyalty tests?
      • JasonADrury20 minutes ago
        The state religion in Kuwait is Sunni Islam. It&#x27;s much more nuanced than &quot;Muslim brethren&quot;, except perhaps less so when Israel is directly involved, as it is today.<p>It&#x27;s also important to note that these are not democracies. The state frequently does things that people aren&#x27;t entirely happy with, it&#x27;s only when the people (or religious leaders!) become sufficiently unhappy that it becomes a problem.
      • dfadsadsf18 minutes ago
        Do not mistake leadership and regular people. Afghanistan president Ghani handed over sovereignty to US too but Afghans disagreed. I am confident that there is significant minority in Kuwait wishing for Iran victory. As a datapoint, there were videos from Bahrain with people cheering for Iranian rockets hitting American bases.
      • lenerdenator1 minute ago
        Imagine thinking that you&#x27;re brothers with someone based solely on what religion you both supposedly believe.
      • vonneumannstan17 minutes ago
        Lol most Kuwaitis including the royal family are Sunni and believe Iranian Shia&#x27;s to be heretics. So no love lost there at all.