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  • botusaurus2 hours ago
    &gt; But NanoClaw isn&#x27;t just my personal project anymore. Thousands of people are using it. People are running production workloads on it. Businesses are building on it. There&#x27;s a real community now.<p>as OpenClaw and now NanoClaw became &quot;enterprise&quot;, now we need a new FemtoClaw to pick up the indie&#x2F;boutique place
    • Tt60002 hours ago
      How is this &quot;becoming enterprise&quot;? If anything it now defaults to millions of Linux users being able to access it
    • Someone46 minutes ago
      Could also make the other part ‘smaller’ and use nail, hoof or dewclaw (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dewclaw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dewclaw</a>)
    • andai1 hour ago
      How&#x27;s 100 lines? :)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;a-n-d-a-i&#x2F;ULTRON&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;src&#x2F;index.ts" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;a-n-d-a-i&#x2F;ULTRON&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;src&#x2F;index.ts</a>
    • arcanemachiner1 hour ago
      Well, there was Picoclaw, but I think it was renamed to Clawlet.
      • imiric46 minutes ago
        That&#x27;s old news. Now there&#x27;s Plancklaw, renamed to ∅. It has no code base, no bugs, no security issues, infinitely scalable, and all the features of every other *claw.
        • guld20 minutes ago
          Well actually there is ROE.md, no code, just a Markdown file to generate a claw.
  • stavros2 hours ago
    For my version of the AI assistant, I used a Docker container and Unix permissions:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;skorokithakis&#x2F;stavrobot" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;skorokithakis&#x2F;stavrobot</a><p>All plugins run in one Docker container, but they&#x27;re isolated from each other by different *nix users, so they can&#x27;t read each other&#x27;s files. That&#x27;s much more lightweight, and you don&#x27;t have to run one container per plugin.<p>Crucially, plugins can&#x27;t read each other&#x27;s secrets or modify each other&#x27;s code. I even have a plugin configuration webpage that doesn&#x27;t go through an LLM, so the LLM never sees your secrets if you don&#x27;t want to.
  • amelius2 hours ago
    Putting these NanoClowns inside a container will not protect you from all kinds of safety hazards.
    • andai1 hour ago
      That&#x27;s the fun part! You spend all day hardening it... run it in docker in a vm on a separate machine. And then you hook it up to your gmail and give it unrestricted internet access :)
    • arcanemachiner1 hour ago
      Wearing a seatbelt will not protect you from all kinds of car accidents.
      • amelius1 hour ago
        Yes. That&#x27;s why you don&#x27;t put a Clown behind the steering wheel.
        • weinzierl48 minutes ago
          It is more like getting in the car with Stuntman Mike. The risk is not that the driver might make a mistake but that it actively turns against you and a container is not a security boundary against an adversary.
        • bdcravens1 hour ago
          Tesla Robotaxi says hold my beer
      • InsideOutSanta1 hour ago
        Wearing a helmet will not protect you from all injuries caused by jumping off a cliff.<p>Point is, don&#x27;t jump off a cliff.
        • troupo1 hour ago
          The nature of these tools is that you tell them not to jump off a cliff, so they ride the bicycle over it. Or a car. Or &quot;you&#x27;re completely right. I assumed it was possible to fly&quot;. Or...
          • refsys45 minutes ago
            or you pass by graffiti telling it to jump off a cliff, written in iambic pentameter (or whatever is the jailbreak meta of the month)
  • Xx_crazy420_xX49 minutes ago
    I can&#x27;t believe the solution is creating uncompatibile branch and forcing users to use cladue for resolving merge conflits. Why not bake in the dual compatibility?
    • jimmydoe6 minutes ago
      you may slot in podman, but apple container is not very good atm.
  • ericbuildsio1 hour ago
    Sensible, this broadens our hosting options.
  • gre40 minutes ago
    apple container is really buggy with networking
    • Y-bar0 minutes ago
      That’s not the fault of containers, I have significant Bluetooth and WiFi issues on my apple devices without running any containers.
  • brcmthrowaway1 hour ago
    Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc
    • lm2846939 minutes ago
      There is no special sauce, it&#x27;s mass hysteria driven by fake adoption metrics and people who don&#x27;t know anything about computers who let &quot;agents&quot; run free on theirs. It&#x27;s the equivalent of showing a magician cut a women in a box in half to a 5 years old kid... Put them in the same category as the neckbeards getting a hard on every 3 weeks for the past 2 years when they get to see the new version of ThE PeLiCaN On A BiCyCle... I wonder how long the circus will keep on going, at least it&#x27;s funny to witness from the outside
    • stavros1 hour ago
      They&#x27;re &quot;always&quot; running, so they can notify you out of the blue, without you having to initiate a conversation. It&#x27;s really nice UX to get a message from my assistant saying &quot;hey, it&#x27;s time to leave for the gym, and don&#x27;t forget the supermarket bag because you&#x27;re picking up milk on the way back, as you&#x27;ve run out&quot;.
      • mpweiher4 minutes ago
        Dunno, my calendar reminds me &quot;out of the blue&quot;, without me having to initiate a conversation, that it&#x27;s time to leave for the gym, no &quot;claw&quot; or &quot;ai&quot; involved.<p>I always have my backpack with me, so if I need milk I can pick it up on the way back. And I am pretty sure that I have to notice if I need milk myself.<p>The tech sounds cool, but whenever I hear about actual applications, I don&#x27;t see the point.
      • netsharc1 hour ago
        Hmm, Google Gemini has access to my Google Tasks and can set reminders. It&#x27;s also asked me if I want it to check something at &quot;tomorrow 9am&quot;, and when I said yes, it managed to do that.
        • stavros1 hour ago
          Yeah, that&#x27;s kind of like it. Agents just have many many more integrations, so they can do many more things. For example, it knows all my preferences, and can search for flights and say things like &quot;this one is more expensive, but skipping the morning wakeup is worth the $20&quot;.
        • caminante1 hour ago
          But have you had consistently good experience with Google Gemini and Google apps? Or read the mixed reviews?<p>For me, Gemini has been hit or miss and somehow less useful than Assistant was 2+ years ago.
          • netsharc9 minutes ago
            The coding assistant for VSCode is nuts (i.e. gets it wrong a lot, also one time it just got so confused).<p>I have Gemini Pro for free for a year because I bought a Pixel phone, it answers very fast, so I like it. Let&#x27;s see how I&#x27;ll feel about shelling out real money when the subscription ends. But on the phone, I still use Assistant (and just have a shortcut to launch the webpage in my browser), because the phone was forcing Gemini, but after 5 minutes of usage I found it was slower for my usages (usually I just tell it to set an alarm and add a reminder&#x2F;calendar event), and when I asked about my tasks, Gemini would get the task listing from Google Tasks, and keep it in its history... that&#x27;ll pollute my chat history!
      • dimitri-vs1 hour ago
        How would it know you&#x27;ve ran out of milk?
        • stavros1 hour ago
          I told it when I noticed. I made a little pendant with a mic I can speak into and it goes to the bot.
          • LeafItAlone1 hour ago
            I would love to hear more about this!
            • stavros1 hour ago
              I haven&#x27;t written it up yet but the repo is here:<p>It&#x27;s just a MEMS mic, a battery, and an ESP32, very simple but it works amazingly well. I wrote a companion Android app for it and it works extremely reliably!
          • imiric41 minutes ago
            Turns out Humane was ahead of its time.
      • brcmthrowaway1 hour ago
        How do people afford this?
        • andoando59 minutes ago
          Claude max $100 is way more usage than I need. And yeah its not running all the time, just has a heartbeat file telling it how to check something and run
        • stavros1 hour ago
          A subscription, really. It doesn&#x27;t <i>actually</i> run all the time, it just has a cron job that makes it feel that way.
    • sailfast34 minutes ago
      Crons. A local daemon. System access as a user with the ability to listen to changes. Some idea of shared “memory” between sessions. Provider agnostic about AI. Multi-model.
    • gas9S9zw3P9c34 minutes ago
      It can schedule stuff and run in a loop, so it&#x27;s like claude combined with cron. Truly amazing technology.
    • dimitri-vs1 hour ago
      It&#x27;s for people that don&#x27;t know how or don&#x27;t want to be bothered with setting up a messenger integration and a scheduler.
    • saberience1 hour ago
      There is no special sauce. They are claude or codex in a loop. The loop is facilitated by basic cron jobs. That&#x27;s it.<p>Ai Agent as it has been for months, plus skills, plus a cron job to prompt it to do things every 20 minutes or 2 hours or however often you want.
    • boywitharupee1 hour ago
      they have a watchdog loop, it runs periodically
  • benatkin2 hours ago
    So they&#x27;re making it use OCI images? Cool. Hopefully there will be good support for Podman.
    • funkaster2 hours ago
      apple containers also run on OCI images: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;apple&#x2F;container?tab=readme-ov-file#container" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;apple&#x2F;container?tab=readme-ov-file#contai...</a><p>&gt; The tool consumes and produces OCI-compatible container images...
  • john_alan1 hour ago
    Use containers, Docker is cancer.