If 99% of adults have an abnormality, it ceases to be abnormal regardless of its effects
That's actually what the article points out. But I do think the language of normal vs abnormal obfuscates some of the intent. It's a 'deviation from healthy baseline' that they're talking about, and there are multiple such deviations in the grouped 'anomalies'.<p>From the article:<p><i>The language in particular should change given that “abnormalities” are ubiquitous—thus normal—and shouldn’t be described in terms that indicate a need for repair, like “tear.”</i>
99% of adults have abnormal faces, they all look different!
Ok, in that case it's safe to say that the normal is highly variant but generally follows a pattern. People generally have a nose in the center of their face so that'd be normal, but one on the forehead would be abnormal unless everyone suddenly also had forehead noses
I would hate to be one of the ~80 million people in the world who have identical faces
Relevant history from the US Airforce in the 1940s when they tried to build a cockpit for the average pilot and failed<p>I find this an interesting take on the story<p><a href="https://polkas.github.io/posts/cursedim/" rel="nofollow">https://polkas.github.io/posts/cursedim/</a>
Except that one guy.
Dude I know exactly who you're talking about, that guy without a unique face! Weird as hell that he's the only one...
Everyone is abnormal compared to yourself.
Right, it's clearly aging related deterioration. It's like saying facial wrinkles are an abnormality.
I think the conclusion they're eluding to in the article is that: "if MRI says 99% of people have abnormalities, MRI is not trustworthy".
Yes in one sense, but it also points to the insufficency of "normalness". See also: The Average Soldier.
only if the abnormality is in the same spot
Abnominal (not abdominal)
Not if they are all different and produce negative effects
Dunno man. When enough people overweight, 1-2 alcoholic drink become healthy (alcohol is a blood thinner): this happened, but as we know now it's not true.
"1% of adults over 40 have abnormally normal shoulders"
Given that most commenters do not seem to have read the article perhaps the headline could be more explicit about 'MRIs find "abnormalities" but they seem to have no relationship to actual health problems"
Who's the freak without an abnormality?
A statistical error. All humans are slightly asymmetrical. Most shoulder problems begin at foot and/or hip though.
Im guessing certain gym rats who also dont desk/computer work?
I would strongly bet against gym rats not having some should abnormality. If anything, I'd expect them to have more issues with their tendons and ligaments.
More likely someone who's been in a coma for the last ten years.
Oh hey it's me, I'm the conformist. Stop picking on me.
Most of my shoulder issues are sleep related since I sleep on my side. Getting a body pillow system, was costly but kinda worth it. Helps with shoulder and GERD. Only issue is that it's kinda warm and I like to sleep cool.
The issue with those inclined pillows with the arm hole in them is that they can be a really hard angle for a side sleeper to be at. It makes my back and hips hurt way worse than my shoulder.
Any recommendations? I have GERD and generally sleep on my back, which helps but isn't perfect.
Cervical radiculopathy can cause shoulder pain. I have experienced this quite a bit and it's probably also because of my sleeping style. I wouldn't get an MRI unless I was planning to have surgery.
> was costly but kinda worth it<p>This doesn't inspire confidence, but I guess any improvement that mitigates pain is nice.<p>But seriously, the article addressesd that<p>> The authors argue that the findings suggest clinicians should rethink MRI findings, changing not just how they’re used, but also how they’re explained to patients. The language in particular should change given that “abnormalities” are ubiquitous—thus normal—and shouldn’t be described in terms that indicate a need for repair, like “tear.”
Do they define if this relates to anything noticeable in your day to day?<p>For example, I can put my right hand above my shoulder and left hand near my lower back and easily connect both hands behind my back with fully interlocked fingers by converging in the middle. They reach to the other hand's palm.<p>But I can only barely touch my fingers with both hands if I switch it up so my left hand is up top.<p>I have no pain or day to day mobility issues but something is lopsided. Is that what they consider abnormal?
Just hit my mid twenties. Want to say I started having some shoulder issues around 20 years old. Although correlation =! causation, I largely think this is because of my lifelong computer usage and PC gaming. It doesn't bother me all the time, but every few months something will change up and it comes back. Surprisingly, my wrists and hands are completely fine, no carpal tunnel or anything similar.
Evolution doesn't really bother with 40+ year olds.
100% of all things that do not asexually reproduce are mutants
I don't know what causes it, but even without major issues I think a lot of people continually loose range of motion in the shoulder as they age. So this doesn't surprise me.
Reading this title made me sit up in my chair.
I have three kids and they've messed up my dominant schoulder (left).
I have three dogs and they’ve messed up my dominant shoulder, back and leg
From walking around holding them with your left arm when they were babies, or from something else?
Walking/carrying at all crazy hours once they were >30kg. Holding 40kg of sick kid around is fun. Ours all refused to sit in the stroller very early which is what made it so much worse (our oldest was two, the other two refused point blank the second they could walk).
not OP but - walking, carrying, holding, being pulled in random directions, catching kids when they jump at you from unexpected places, kids using your arms to practice tug-of-war/rock-climbing, pushing (empty) stroller with one hand, and carrying kid with other....
What about the other 1%? I feel for them.
related discussion here - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47008607">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47008607</a>
Even though they never have any neck pain, many shoulder issues are actually caused by pinched nerves in the cervical spine.
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You call it "abnormality", I call it evolution. We are not the same.