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  • dalyons53 minutes ago
    The square km the US uses to grow corn for ethanol is about ~~ 1&#x2F;3rd the total global area required for solar in this article. Ethanol that is a gigantic waste of resources.<p>They seem like big numbers until you compare it with the enormity of what we already do.
    • mdf25 minutes ago
      Yes, and the corn-based ethanol here is used for &quot;feeding cars&quot; that have combustion engines, i.e. it&#x27;s already used <i>exactly</i> for energy production. The most recent Technology Connections video[1] quoted some numbers on this. All this land dedicated to disposable energy production could be dedicated to renewable energy production instead.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM</a>
    • burnt-resistor41 minutes ago
      Yep. 5% of <i>all</i> US land is dedicated to just growing subsidized corn.
  • AnotherGoodName28 minutes ago
    A long article, about rising prices driven by fossil fuel costs but also a lot of positivity as you read towards the end and a sudden sharp downturn that’s coming to Australias power prices. Australia’s wholesale power prices halved in q4 2025 due to massive solar and battery investment that on a per capita basis dwarfs china. Australia is now over 50% renewables. It’s set to accelerate too.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.abc.net.au&#x2F;news&#x2F;2026-02-08&#x2F;big-swings-in-australias-electricity-market&#x2F;106305696" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.abc.net.au&#x2F;news&#x2F;2026-02-08&#x2F;big-swings-in-austral...</a><p>So at least one continent in this picture is making great progress to achieving this.
    • nandomrumber23 minutes ago
      &gt; wholesale power prices halved<p>Who cares?<p>No one pays the wholesale price.<p>What price does the <i>retail</i> customer pay?
      • Retric13 minutes ago
        Retail prices obscure the underlying economics via taxes and subsidies.<p>Here the wholesale prices are far more relevant economically.
  • hliyan1 hour ago
    I felt this was telling:<p>&gt; The typical golf course covers about a square kilometer. We have 40,000 of them around the world being meticulously maintained. If the same could be said for solar farms we would be almost 10% of the way there.<p>To me, it&#x27;s one of many ways in which markets fail to allocate resources to the most pressing problems.
    • bawolff21 minutes ago
      I don&#x27;t think its lack of land that is preventing 10% of our energy coming from solar. Do you really believe that without golf courses there, the land would be used for solar instead?
    • chongli51 minutes ago
      Markets allocate resources based on supply and demand. Individuals don’t demand solutions to diffuse problems. It’s tragedy of the commons every time.
      • roenxi30 minutes ago
        &gt; Individuals don’t demand solutions to diffuse problems<p>Markets solve diffuse problems <i>really</i> well, people signal how much their section of the problem is worth solving and the market judges whether the overall problem can be solved cost effectively. Getting food to everyone is a diffuse problem for example.<p>Tragedy of the commons is different. Markets don&#x27;t solve how to solve owning things in common and the usual market recommendation is not to do that.
      • dotancohen19 minutes ago
        How much money does a golf course bring in yearly? How onerous are the regulations?<p>How much money would a solar farm bring in yearly? How onerous would the regulations be?
      • edwcross42 minutes ago
        Nice expression, but the book by the same name is fatally flawed in its science.
    • burnt-resistor36 minutes ago
      There is no magic hand, only a Tragedy of the Commons and greedy individuals doing whatever. (Federally, there is at present time little-to-no prosecution of fraudsters or tax cheats. Economically, it&#x27;s basically The Purge.)<p>Appropriate regulations and enforcement is what is missing but ⅔ of country is brainwashed by billionaires and Fox News that &quot;gubberment bad&quot; and &quot;regulations are communism&quot;.
    • pfdietz1 hour ago
      Land is cheap, so why not golf courses?
  • veleek29 minutes ago
    There’s an updated article as of Aug 2021 too: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;landartgenerator.org&#x2F;blagi&#x2F;archives&#x2F;77565" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;landartgenerator.org&#x2F;blagi&#x2F;archives&#x2F;77565</a>
  • biggerben17 minutes ago
    Nitpick: if you’re trying to illustrate sizes of things, you should use an equal-area map projection.<p>The Southern Ocean wind installation is to the right scale or not?
  • Towaway691 hour ago
    It seems that a project like this would require more cooperation -<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aeon.co&#x2F;essays&#x2F;we-cooperate-to-survive-but-if-no-ones-looking-we-compete" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aeon.co&#x2F;essays&#x2F;we-cooperate-to-survive-but-if-no-one...</a><p>But cooperation only occurs when the entire group is at risk, that isn’t the case currently.
  • plun918 minutes ago
    Too bad most people don&#x27;t live close to those specific areas.
  • epistasis25 minutes ago
    The biggest impediment to clean energy, which is actually <i>cheaper</i> than fossil fuels, is politics. We have political interference at the highest level to impede solar, storage, and wind.<p>In the US, residential solar is 5x-6x more expensive than in Australia per W, i.e. on identical system costs, not on what&#x27;s generated. And they pay their labor better than we do in the US at the same time. It&#x27;s because of a lot of regulatory and utility interference, and a laundry list of other things:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.volts.wtf&#x2F;p&#x2F;whats-the-real-story-with-australian" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.volts.wtf&#x2F;p&#x2F;whats-the-real-story-with-australian</a><p>This is the headline from a non-partisan energy media outlet when it comes to wind: &quot; How Trump dismantled a promising energy industry — and what America lost---The demolition of the offshore wind sector in 2025 will reverberate for decades, resulting in lost jobs, higher utility bills, and less reliable power grids.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.canarymedia.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;offshore-wind&#x2F;how-trump-dismantled-a-promising-energy-industry-and-what-america-lost" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.canarymedia.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;offshore-wind&#x2F;how-trump...</a><p>And when it comes to batteries, people that don&#x27;t care about the effects of mining or oil extraction or toxicity of gasoline all of a sudden start to get all worked up about supposedly &quot;toxic&quot; lithium batteries, because they&#x27;ve consumed a ton of propaganda on the matter, and no facts. People also seem to think that we somehow burn lithium, instead of mine it once, and use a tiny amount (dozens of pounds) to power an entire car, which can then be recycled.<p>And I can&#x27;t tell you how many times I&#x27;ve been told that we can&#x27;t do solar because it takes &quot;too much land&quot; or &quot;physics&quot; by people that pretend to be good with numbers but have never figured out how to calculate the actual requirementns by solar...<p>This is a US-specific comment, but the rest of the world is not as foolish and is plowing full-steam ahead to a world of ever decreasing energy costs because they are not stopping the progress of better technology.
  • janesvilleseo25 minutes ago
    I’ll just leave this here for those who have some time to watch: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;KtQ9nt2ZeGM?si=MBVdiOpSdgmGaar5" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;KtQ9nt2ZeGM?si=MBVdiOpSdgmGaar5</a>