13 comments

  • 1970-01-0116 minutes ago
    Professional runners will do high impact lifting and daily stretching. Amateurs will do whatever they feel like doing for prep work, including nothing at all. It's disturbing that they leave this critical detail out.
    • jvanderbot2 minutes ago
      &gt; They follow a specific programme that includes dietary measures, recovery phases and processes.<p>Eh, it&#x27;s kinda there
  • bob102954 minutes ago
    I think that supercompensation is not as strong an effect in amateurs and that this is the #1 driver of injury.<p>I&#x27;ve long suspected there is a range of exertion that is net negative with regard to injury risk. No exercise at all means no exercise related risk. However, I strongly disagree that an extreme amount of exercise is the riskiest. I think the most dangerous level of exertion sits right in the middle somewhere. That special zone where you are grinding down your bones a bit but your hormones and other compensation mechanisms don&#x27;t react accordingly because you aren&#x27;t going quite hard enough.
  • Someone43 minutes ago
    FTA:<p><i>“A high-level athlete doesn’t need to see a sports doctor.<p>[…]<p>Professional athletes benefit from much better […] medical support than novice or amateur runners”</i><p>So, which is it? You might say their <i>“specific programme that includes dietary measures, recovery phases and processes”</i> is medical support but doesn’t involve doctors, but if you do, I think that’s playing with words.
  • mycall45 minutes ago
    The key is simply to keep moving.<p>Staying safer and getting the benefits comes down to progressive training (carefully managing volume and intensity), adapting lifestyle&#x2F;recovery, and getting guidance&#x2F;support (coaches, clubs, medical help) rather than assuming pros are built differently and amateurs are safe.
    • Aboutplants40 minutes ago
      My doctors recommendation has always been “Eat a little better and move around a little bit, that’s your goal”
  • PaulHoule1 hour ago
    Funny two weekends ago I watched a woman set a world record for the mile for women 80-85.
  • FeteCommuniste1 hour ago
    I&#x27;ve been lucky to run fourteen years so far without any injuries at all, starting when I was twenty-seven. I don&#x27;t train &quot;for&quot; anything, though, other than maintaining my own fitness. I just do my 10K three times a week and that&#x27;s good enough for me.
    • WalterBright16 minutes ago
      I&#x27;ve been running 3x a week for over 40 years now.<p>* about 4 miles<p>* I don&#x27;t run for time, just a trot<p>* not training for anything<p>* drink a full glass of water beforehand. If sweaty outside, two glasses<p>* had some pain in my hips and knees. Switched to a ball-strike rather than a heel-strike. Pain went away. (you can feel the difference in the impact on the knees and hips)<p>* don&#x27;t run downhill<p>* the big toe joint hurts and has gotten large making it hard to find shoes that fit<p>* don&#x27;t run when not feeling well, or there&#x27;s ice<p>* I feel weird when I can&#x27;t run for some reason<p>* It feels good to run, and I like the results
    • mycall42 minutes ago
      I do 10K twice a week, but walking speed with a 15kg backpack for load training. It is safer on my joints and pushes my body harder but obviously takes much longer than running.
    • 3moloz54 minutes ago
      What&#x27;s your secret to longevity? Do you not push tempo to, hopefully, lessen the stress on your body?
      • evenman0219 minutes ago
        The best way for me to avoid injury is to just not run if I dont feel good. If I dont sleep well, or feel like I am getting a little sick, I just take the day off. If my ankle or knee doesnt feel quite right, I skip my run.<p>To maintain my fitness, I do a mix of gym strength training, bike riding, and running, which also helps reduce some stress from any one type of training.
      • markstos50 minutes ago
        I&#x27;ve been running about the same amount of years, starting at age 38, including sometimes as many as 14 runs of 26.2 or longer in a year.<p>Keeping 80% or more of the volume at an easy effort is part of that. I think diet helps, because depending on what you eat, you are could be contributing to more or less inflammation in the body, which both could make injury more likely and recovery slower. I eat whole-food, plant-based.<p>I expect a good stretching routine would also aid injury prevention, but I&#x27;ve been pretty lousy about that most of the time.
      • FeteCommuniste32 minutes ago
        I don&#x27;t push myself that hard. If I don&#x27;t feel that hot (slept poorly, sick recently), I&#x27;ll do a shorter run.<p>Average heart rate is around 140.
  • clumsysmurf33 minutes ago
    &gt; Note the paradox here: one of the principles of training is to stimulate the body, to “wear it out” at a given moment in time in order to trigger the physiological processes that will lead to improved capabilities, the fight against fatigue… and, ultimately, increased resistance to physical stress.<p>A somewhat recent paper:<p>Systematic review and meta-analysis of antioxidants with or without exercise training improving muscle condition in older adults<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC12491480&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC12491480&#x2F;</a><p>Seems to imply that as we get older, antioxidants might help the body recover from exercise. More specifically, antioxidants may help resolve exercise induced inflammation in adults aged over 55 years.<p>So it seems that, yes, as you get older, its easier for the body to wear down, but this can be mitigated somewhat.
  • asplake1 hour ago
    Nursing a sore right Achilles as I read this...
  • mistrial91 hour ago
    reading some popular media from around 1900 in the USA, it seemed to be a common perception that people who trained for track and field events generally expect a short life somehow.
    • boomboomsubban52 minutes ago
      If you read about their wellness and performance enhancing drugs, there&#x27;s good reason they died young.<p>For example, the 1904 Olympic marathon, the organizer believed drinking water was a bad idea while exercising and the winner took a mix of brandy, strychnine and egg whites during the race.
      • istjohn25 minutes ago
        The Wikipedia article on that race is a must-read: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Athletics_at_the_1904_Summer_Olympics_–_Men%27s_marathon" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Athletics_at_the_1904_Summer_O...</a>
      • lnkl48 minutes ago
        I don&#x27;t understand this, didn&#x27;t they feel like crap all the time with such diet?
        • boomboomsubban22 minutes ago
          Most racers didn&#x27;t finish, so the water idea was just dumb. I&#x27;m not sure how serious anyone that actually trained ever took it.<p>The strychnine man did feel like crap. From <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Athletics_at_the_1904_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_marathon" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Athletics_at_the_1904_Summer_O...</a><p>&gt;Hicks led the race by 1.5 miles (2.4 km), but he had to be restrained from stopping and lying down by his trainers....He continued to battle onwards, hallucinating, and was barely able to walk for most of the course. When he reached the stadium, his support team carried him over the line, holding him in the air while he shuffled his feet as if still running.
        • Tagbert35 minutes ago
          But… winning!
  • roschdal1 hour ago
    Yes
  • bossyTeacher1 hour ago
    I mean the consensus is that to improve you kinda have to put a certain level of unusually high stress on your body. While amateurs do it at a lower level, amateurs likely like the genetics that makes increases resistance to slows down the wearing process and also lack regular constant monitoring of exercise intensity, frequency, rests, diet etc.
  • _aleph2c_21 minutes ago
    TLDR: no, they do not wear out the body in the same way
  • markstos54 minutes ago
    It depends on the intensity level. In the pandemic of 2020, I ran 26.2 mile runs at an easy effort for 5 weekends in row in the spring and 6 in the fall, generally with my easy effort getting faster as I went. Rather than the sequence of big runs wearing my out, I was getting stronger.<p>Now, if I had tried to run every one at &quot;race pace&quot;, I would likely be trashed or injured by the end from insufficient recovery.