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  • JumpCrisscross1 hour ago
    When I was a twentysomething, I had roommates. This saved money on rent and bulk purchases (which let me spend more time having fun <i>and</i> save money) and provided a starter-kit social circle in a new city. It also honed conflict-resolution skills and ability to be civil. And when I got a partner, it made moving in together smoother.<p>Something I’ve noticed recently is many college graduates living alone. That’s fine. But it’s a weird default for early in one’s career. If I had one general piece of advice for anyone starting their career, it would be to seek out a living situation with roommates.<p>Side question: are more college students staying in solo dorms?
    • cj52 minutes ago
      oh man, you just gave me a flashback to my roommates a decade ago changing my WiFi router password since they thought I was working too much. That was not my finest moment as far as practicing conflict resolution goes :)<p>But that’s also the point. Low risk situation to practice things that later in life become much higher risk. Better to figure out how to cohabitate with a few random roommates than a SO down the road.
  • gniv1 hour ago
    It&#x27;s not a high number when compared to other first-world countries: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;statranker.org&#x2F;population&#x2F;top-10-countries-with-highest-share-of-single-person-households-2025&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;statranker.org&#x2F;population&#x2F;top-10-countries-with-high...</a>
    • throw0101a1 hour ago
      &gt; <i><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;statranker.org&#x2F;population&#x2F;top-10-countries-with-highest-share-of-single-person-households-2025&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;statranker.org&#x2F;population&#x2F;top-10-countries-with-high...</a></i><p>It&#x27;s not (just) about the absolute number, but the trend as well; see &quot;Chart 2. Rise of single-person households, 1990–2025&quot;.
    • auggierose1 hour ago
      Interesting that UK is not in the top 10 list. Because of more ethnic diversity, or because they cannot afford single households?
      • notahacker1 hour ago
        Rare to live alone in London, even amongst single thirtysomething professionals earning well above median income.
    • onlyrealcuzzo1 hour ago
      But it is one of the largest drivers for increased housing demand.
  • latexr1 hour ago
    If more people lived together with friends, that’d make a dent in both the housing and loneliness crises.
    • whywhywhywhy1 hour ago
      Living close to friends and having a community that knows&#x2F;supports each other helps a lot but living with friends is a good way to end up with less friends. Someone you can stand being around all day is very different than someone you really enjoy spending a few hours a month with.
      • JumpCrisscross1 hour ago
        &gt; <i>Someone you can stand being around all day is very different than someone you really enjoy spending a few hours a month with</i><p>One is a friend. The other an acquaintance.
    • xacky1 hour ago
      Then again how many more people would live alone if they could afford to rent or buy on a single income?
      • expedition321 hour ago
        Yeah in my country people leave their parents house in their early 20s. Independence and individuality are the foundational bedrock of my culture.<p>But it&#x27;s getting harder because of the housing market.
        • latexr58 minutes ago
          &gt; Independence and individuality<p>Neither are threatened by living with a friend or someone else near your age. Sure, move out of your parents’ home, but that doesn’t mean you have to live <i>alone</i>.
          • JumpCrisscross23 minutes ago
            &gt; <i>Neither are threatened by living with a friend or someone else near your age</i><p>The difference between sharing a 2BR and living in an apartment building are more exercises in cultural than physical difference.
    • rickydroll1 hour ago
      You know how you can tell if you have a really good friend? They will help you dispose of your roommate&#x27;s body, 24 by 7, no questions asked.
      • latexr59 minutes ago
        They might have one question: “How much is the rent and when can I move in?”
        • AnimalMuppet51 minutes ago
          If you just murdered your roommate, I&#x27;m not sure I&#x27;m in a rush to become your next roommate...
          • latexr35 minutes ago
            That just adds to the joke.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tapas.io&#x2F;episode&#x2F;3740756" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tapas.io&#x2F;episode&#x2F;3740756</a>
    • Esophagus41 hour ago
      Living close to friends seems like a good idea as well.<p>Living in suburbia has definitely made me yearn for this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.architecturaldigest.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;should-more-of-us-be-moving-to-live-near-friends" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.architecturaldigest.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;should-more-of-us-...</a>
    • JumpCrisscross1 hour ago
      Both directly, by providing a social circle, and indirectly, by training people to live with a partner.
    • lapcat1 hour ago
      Part of the loneliness crisis is the difficulty of making friends.<p>This reminds me, yesterday I was walking down the hallway of my apartment building, and one of my neighbors passed by me but neglected to even acknowledge my existence, because their head was down staring at their smartphone.
      • latexr53 minutes ago
        &gt; Part of the loneliness crisis is the difficulty of making friends.<p>Sharing a house is a good way to combat that. Sometimes you move in with people you tangentially know. Sometimes you won’t be huge friends with them but can still interact, or may even meet some of their friends and hit it off.
    • lazide1 hour ago
      The issue is the number of people who ‘surprise’ you with out of control behaviors that are a huge issue with room mates. And getting out of living situation with someone like that can be extremely difficult.<p>People can seem perfectly fine, until they seem to spontaneously turn into hoarders, or start eating all your food and lying about it, or start being aggressively in your face about a bunch of antagonistic culture bullshit, etc.<p>I think what we’re seeing is Americans increasingly fed up with (or even terrified of) other Americans.
      • latexr1 hour ago
        There’s definitely some risk, but the alternative is not a panacea either (high rents, loneliness). You can also get closer to people and enrich your life, and it’s positive to practice tolerance for the behaviours of others (within reason).<p>It’s possible there are more unhinged people today, but I think that’s also a consequence of us spending so much time alone in the first place (and sycophantic bots are only going to make that worse).<p>I was also thinking of everyone, not just US Americans.
        • lazide32 minutes ago
          Except for a very, very small number of people, everyone I&#x27;ve ever known who can afford to not have room mates - doesn&#x27;t have room mates. Young or old.<p>There is a reason for this, and it isn&#x27;t because they hate their mental health.<p>The issue here is how hard it is to protect your own mental health when someone else refuses to respect yours, and how a co-living situation can make that hard - because you literally are all up in each others business.
      • soulofmischief1 hour ago
        I moved in with one of my closest friends a few years ago, someone I considered a brother. In less than a year, I got someone to sublet and have not spoken to him since. I had no idea someone could be such a tool.
      • hopelite1 hour ago
        It’s something europeans don’t yet understand, that “diversity” has utterly destroyed community, trust, and tranquility in the US; mostly because it has been forced upon people against their will in direct contradiction of the core tenets of the Constitution and founding principles of America.<p>I realize hearing that or seeing that others may read that, may anger people who are deeply invested in the fraud that diversity is good, but all the legitimate research into the topic all tells us the same thing; that “diversity” is detrimental to any and all human communities all around the world, even for the very group that pushes it on others while aggressively rejecting it for themselves and their own.<p>edit: No amount of downvoting will change reality, whether you shoot the messenger or not. It&#x27;s a shame, because good does not actually prevail, especially with brainwashed fools who assist those seeking the demise of others. Support of &quot;diversity&quot; is no different than the support of the genocide the jewish state committed and is to this day still committing in Gaza... the support of evil without the intelligence to understand that.
      • hopelite1 hour ago
        It’s something europeans don’t yet understand, that “diversity” has utterly destroyed community, trust, and tranquility in the US; mostly because it has been forced upon people against their will in direct contradiction of the core tenets of the Constitution and founding principles of America.<p>I realize hearing that or seeing that others may read that may anger people who are deeply invested in this fraud that diversity is good, but all the legitimate research into the topic all tells us the same thing; that it is detrimental to any and all human communities all around the world, even for the very group that pushes it on others while aggressively rejecting it for themselves and their own.
  • xnx46 minutes ago
    Part of the &quot;housing crisis&quot; is older Americans aging-in-place and using way more home than they need too. A widow&#x2F;er might occupy the same suburban single family home in retirement that could house 5 people.
  • gniv1 hour ago
    Incidentally, that newsletter has a lot of interesting charts.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apolloacademy.com&#x2F;the-daily-spark&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apolloacademy.com&#x2F;the-daily-spark&#x2F;</a>
  • RobotToaster1 hour ago
    Is this page just a single chart and a massive legal disclaimer?
  • pavlov1 hour ago
    Is it a bad thing? People&#x27;s life choices are their own.<p>29% seems like a fairly neutral number.
    • mellosouls1 hour ago
      It&#x27;s a bad thing if we want a cohesive society or if we wish to maximise well-being (both of which are challenged by people increasing their exposure to solitude and loneliness); and your claim about life choices is only partially true - we are all constrained&#x2F;guided by genetic and environmental factors.
    • throw0101a1 hour ago
      &gt; <i>Is it a bad thing? People&#x27;s life choices are their own.</i><p>How much of a choice is it that they made willing? The number has doubled over the last few decades:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.self.inc&#x2F;blog&#x2F;adults-living-alone" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.self.inc&#x2F;blog&#x2F;adults-living-alone</a><p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thesocietypages.org&#x2F;graphicsociology&#x2F;tag&#x2F;living-alone&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thesocietypages.org&#x2F;graphicsociology&#x2F;tag&#x2F;living-alon...</a><p>There are health (and happiness) consequences to not being connected to other people:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;ideas&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;harvard-happiness-study-relationships&#x2F;672753&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;ideas&#x2F;archive...</a><p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Loneliness_epidemic" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Loneliness_epidemic</a>
      • pavlov1 hour ago
        Perhaps the number was artificially low before, and more people actually wanted to live on their own. Loneliness is not the same thing as a one-person household.<p>I&#x27;m not seeing evidence that 15% is the correct number and 29% is automatically bad.
    • whobre1 hour ago
      People&#x27;s life choices are their own, but if many people choose to live alone, that objectively affects housing situation in the society.
      • yodsanklai1 hour ago
        if so many people can afford to live alone, perhaps it means that housing situation isn&#x27;t that bad? in cities like NYC where rents are high, it&#x27;s very common to have roommates for instance.
      • sieabahlpark1 hour ago
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    • latexr1 hour ago
      &gt; Is it a bad thing?<p>Considering there are both housing and loneliness crises going on, and that being lonely or socially isolated leads to an early death and radicalisation, I’d say it’s fair to categorise it as a bad thing, yes.<p>Sure, not every single one of those people living alone will be lonely, but I think it’s fair to deduce that many people who are lonely and isolated live alone.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;06&#x2F;19&#x2F;health&#x2F;loneliness-social-isolation-early-death-risk-wellness" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;06&#x2F;19&#x2F;health&#x2F;loneliness-social-isol...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.parliament.nsw.gov.au&#x2F;lcdocs&#x2F;other&#x2F;21402&#x2F;Delany%20Peterson%20et%20al%20%27Loneliness%20is%20positively%20associated%20with%20populist%20radical%20right%20support%27.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.parliament.nsw.gov.au&#x2F;lcdocs&#x2F;other&#x2F;21402&#x2F;Delany%...</a>
      • JumpCrisscross1 hour ago
        I’d wager it also feeds into the fertility crisis. Roommates are a training ground for living with a partner and potentially family. If someone is living with a non-parent for the first time in their late twenties, there may already be habits or intolerances developed that make dating incredibly difficult.
      • bragh57 minutes ago
        The phrasing in your sources is absolutely horrible and brings back high school vibes of &quot;lonely kids are bad because they are lonely, so they must be bullied to make them normal again&quot;. Just great.
    • gilrain1 hour ago
      &gt; People&#x27;s life choices are their own.<p>Only a king or simpleton believes this.
    • kevinpacheco1 hour ago
      If you own shares in e.g. Costco, a long-term sustained trend of shrinking household sizes might give you pause.
    • lm284691 hour ago
      &gt; People&#x27;s life choices are their own.<p>How do you know it&#x27;s by choice?
    • expedition321 hour ago
      It triggers conservatives and Christians who believe in the nuclear family and biblical lifestyle. They despise liberty and agency.
    • Kenji1 hour ago
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  • b3ing1 hour ago
    Any causes? Is it that we are too independent and don’t like collectivism? A conspiracy might say it’s on purpose to have more people pay for things typically bought for a couple. Like everyone having their own house, cable bill, utility bill, water bill, …
    • tyleo1 hour ago
      After college, I intentionally lived with roommates. The three of us were doing well, having secured jobs at Microsoft and Amazon.<p>Even so, splitting rent, utilities, and furniture was a significant financial advantage and helped set us up for long-term success.<p>We had our disagreements, and eventually a falling out with one roommate, but I’d do it all again. The other roommate and I are life long friends and you learn lessons and form bonds in addition to the financial benefit.
    • jltsiren55 minutes ago
      The population is growing older. Young adults rarely live alone, while retirees often do. There are more old people than there used to be, and people often want to continue living in their own home after their spouse dies.
    • nemomarx1 hour ago
      The American tendency to move away from family earlier is probably involved.
    • lm284691 hour ago
      &gt; too independent<p>individualistic
    • g-b-r1 hour ago
      Probably most of all the increase of the age of marriage
      • Cthulhu_1 hour ago
        Which I think is a secondary effect of many other things happening; staying in school for longer, much higher cost of living, cultural shifts like being more aware of what is normal and acceptable in a relationship, etc. It&#x27;s not unusual for people to be in their 30&#x27;s before finally having some (financial, etc) breathing room to even consider things like marriage &#x2F; kids.
        • g-b-r13 minutes ago
          Also, but I think that most of all there used to be pressure to get married early
    • booleandilemma1 hour ago
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      • lm284691 hour ago
        &gt; Unrealistic expectations from women<p>And men too... lots of them stay adolescent well into their 30s and require a caregiver or a substitute mom more than a gf&#x2F;wife. Men exclusively blaming women for their problems tend to be basement dwellers or other kind of failures who don&#x27;t want to take any responsibility
        • bragh1 hour ago
          &gt; lots of them stay adolescent well into their 30s and require a caregiver or a substitute mom more than a gf&#x2F;wife<p>What do you actually mean by this part?
      • Cthulhu_1 hour ago
        What kind of expectations are these?
      • g-b-r1 hour ago
        Want to clarify what you mean?
        • booleandilemma1 hour ago
          What I wrote is pretty self-explanatory. It may not be something that everyone likes to hear though.
          • rexpop1 hour ago
            What you wrote was vague as hell.
  • 0dayman1 hour ago
    sad