7 comments

  • jmuguy3 hours ago
    I came so close to getting our app off of Google Maps a few months ago, we'd be saving literally thousands a month. But the "look" of the map from open street map, map tiler, etc was deemed too different and the team was scared it would negatively impact our users. The Maps API is definitely getting worse, and the pricing setup seems like it was cooked up by someone from Microsoft. Also Maplibre and its various wrappers are so much nicer to work it.
    • cwmma9 minutes ago
      Usually the 'look' is not the issue as much as the geocoder (which you are only allowed to use with a google basemap, no that clever idea you have isn't going to work), like clients are often excited to use a more customizable basemap but balk when it comes to other geocoders which are nice but are not the google one which people really really are used to.
    • bfayers2 hours ago
      I find that the OpenFreeMap[1] &#x27;Liberty&#x27; style looks fairly close to Google Maps.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openfreemap.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openfreemap.org&#x2F;</a>
      • embedding-shape2 hours ago
        Couldn&#x27;t OpenFreeMap&#x2F;someone else offer an identical style&#x2F;theme to Google Maps, or would that be a &quot;copyright&quot; or some other type of infringement in the US?
        • dannyfritz072 hours ago
          Probably an issue of trademark if people confuse the product with Google Maps.
          • embedding-shape1 hour ago
            Do people understand that embedded Google Maps &quot;widgets&quot; are &quot;the product Google Maps&quot;? I think for most people it&#x27;s just &quot;that map on a website&quot;, even if there is labels and stuff explicitly saying &quot;Google Maps&quot;.
          • NooneAtAll346 minutes ago
            speaking of trademarks... when will google walk the xerox plank already?<p>to google has been a verb for like a decade already
    • jtbaker3 hours ago
      I feel like with custom vector based styles, you should be able to get pretty dang close to cloning the look of it? Also subjectively, I find the protomaps basemap themes to be much nicer.
    • tdeck3 hours ago
      Would it be possible to run an AB test?
      • cwmma17 minutes ago
        not OP but the google maps API doesn&#x27;t actually support other vector tiles (and other map libraries are not allowed to use the google map basemap) which means it&#x27;s not easy to just have two versions of the site that differ only in basemap
  • Photogrammaton4 hours ago
    I&#x27;ve been following Alex Wellerstein off and on for a few years now, since I discovered that he was a science adviser for a crazed nuclear-history TV series called Manh(a)ttan, so I read this post about NUKEMAP when it originally appeared. I wonder whether the situation with Google Maps is any different now. I&#x27;m not a developer, so I don&#x27;t need to know. I&#x27;m just curious.
    • embedding-shape3 hours ago
      &gt; I wonder whether the situation with Google Maps is any different now. I&#x27;m not a developer, so I don&#x27;t need to know. I&#x27;m just curious.<p>As the Google Maps APIs&#x2F;libraries already exited the &quot;growth&quot; phase where the focus is acquiring new users, and entered the &quot;squeeze&quot; phase, I&#x27;d say it&#x27;s worse today than it was in 2019.
  • ProofHouse51 minutes ago
    That map pricing change stole literally months of my life having to rip out google from an app I spend months building it into. F Google
  • DonHopkins1 hour ago
    Google Maps is just Spam spelled backwards.
  • mystraline4 hours ago
    Since then, Open Street Maps is self-hostable and supports all of these calls you&#x27;d need to remake this.<p>And no throwing $1500&#x2F;month at google for what amounts to 3 colored circles on a map.
    • runjake2 hours ago
      OpenStreetMap. No &quot;s&quot;, no spaces. Happy hacking! :)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;OpenMapTiles" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.openstreetmap.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;OpenMapTiles</a><p>There are various ways to implement a self-hosted OpenStreetMap. Here&#x27;s one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.netmanageit.com&#x2F;openstreetmap-server-self-hosted-setup-guide-howto&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.netmanageit.com&#x2F;openstreetmap-server-self-hoste...</a>
    • RicoElectrico4 hours ago
      *OpenStreetMap.<p>Seems today the best solution is to self-host Protomaps which offer very fresh OSM extracts, and if HTTP range requests are on the table, single-file hosting of the whole world map.
      • softskunk4 hours ago
        it doesn’t even need to be particularly fresh. for the purposes of this map, it could update just once or twice a decade with no real value loss to anyone using it.
  • rvnx2 hours ago
    Wait until someone writes a script doing a loop or auto-refresh and you get charged 100&#x27;000 USD. For such, Google is very dangerous (lot of nightmare stories), you have to avoid as much as possible their public API services.
    • ProofHouse50 minutes ago
      Yup. Avoid Google services especially map at all costs