9 comments

  • nine_k35 days ago
    It&#x27;s interesting how (according to these charts) Bengaluru alone has more software engineering openings than the entire USA, and NYC has much more tech jobs than SF, on par with Pune.<p>This, and the absence of .NET technologies from the list (as noted elsewhere in the thread) makes me take this whole article with a large grain of salt.
    • windex35 days ago
      India has a huge fake jobs problem. I think it is because of the number of &quot;HR consultants&quot; who constantly need to refresh their databases with &quot;fresh&quot; resumes. I&#x27;ve seen the same jobs being posted for over 8 years with no change whatsoever other than the keyword updates.
      • joenot44334 days ago
        That&#x27;s a funny mechanism. So these are fake jobs that HR consultants (recruiters?) use to harvest resumes?<p>What&#x27;s the angle here?
        • Our_Benefactors34 days ago
          They can submit those resumes to other positions.<p>This type of recruiter often is paid based on # of resumes furnished, not actually filling the position, so the incentives are completely misaligned.
    • sp198235 days ago
      Quickly checking db, SF bay area has quite a bit more than NYC. There are clearly a lot of .NET jobs too but didnt make it to cutoff. I will see if I can include metro areas when I get a chance.
    • darth_avocado35 days ago
      I’m not sure how the list is being compiled but LinkedIn tells me there’s 10k jobs for “software engineer” in a 25 miles radius from me in the Bay Area. Either this data set is incomplete or LinkedIn is lying. Most likely it is both.
      • sp198235 days ago
        I got ~5K if I include Bay Area, tho my data only covers jobs that are active in the past 7d and am quite sure I have room to improve the crawl coverage. My hope is that this report is representative sample of trends.
      • hshdhdhj444435 days ago
        So many LinkedIn jobs are fake.
    • phendrenad235 days ago
      &gt; Bengaluru alone has more software engineering openings than the entire USA<p>That wouldn&#x27;t exactly be surprising IMHO.
      • saxenaabhi32 days ago
        Linkedin shows the following<p><pre><code> US: 77,000 European Economic Area: 58,000 India: 51,000 China: 48,000(probably undercounted) UK: 9,000 Canada: 7,000 Brazil: 6,000 Mexico: 4,000 Aus &amp; NZ: 2,000 Eastern Africa: 300 Western Africa: 500 Southern Africa: 600 Northern Africa: 1,000 Within europe: Nordics: 3,000 Germany: 15,000 France: 8,000 Italy: 3,000 Poland: 5,000 Romania: 2,000</code></pre>
        • phendrenad232 days ago
          Do you work at LinkedIn? How did you get this data?
          • saxenaabhi31 days ago
            sir, you can search for &quot;software engineer&quot; on linkedin jobs and verify the count
            • phendrenad228 days ago
              I tried &#x27;European Economic Area&#x27; but didn&#x27;t get many results.
  • neogodless35 days ago
    So there are no companies on Earth using (or at least hiring for) C# or .NET then... ?
    • reactordev35 days ago
      There are definitely jobs for C# folks, where is mostly Finance. At least from what I’ve seen. Love .Net but they tend to gravitate towards Microsoft Corporate.<p>Most people, Java devs included, have incorporated another language into the quiver. Python perhaps. TypeScript for sure.
    • none258535 days ago
      Or native mobile?
      • sp198235 days ago
        just didn&#x27;t make the cutoff of top 10 categories I am tracking, I will update the report. iOS&#x2F;android&#x2F;c# are around same range of 2%
    • journal35 days ago
      I would not be surprised if the answer is NO.
  • saxenaabhi32 days ago
    I don&#x27;t believe this sample to be representative.<p>Linkedin shows the following<p><pre><code> US: 77,000 European Economic Area: 58,000 India: 51,000 China: 48,000(probably undercounted) UK: 9,000 Canada: 7,000 Brazil: 6,000 Mexico: 4,000 Aus &amp; NZ: 2,000 Eastern Africa: 300 Western Africa: 500 Southern Africa: 600 Northern Africa: 1,000 Within europe: Nordics: 3,000 Germany: 15,000 France: 8,000 Italy: 3,000 Poland: 5,000 Romania: 2,000 </code></pre> Quick thoughts<p>1) US, Europe, China, India seem to be doing way better than the rest of the world<p>2) Germany still tops the charts in europe<p>3) China is probably undercounted, so I wonder if the real number is even higher than US. Would love to hear from people more familiar with chinese job market.<p>4) I wish Africa was doing better given the economic challenges
  • coro_135 days ago
    Certainly this AI report is prone to error and needs clarification. But it&#x27;s a great starting point. Would love to see the page expanded on with sources. This:<p><pre><code> business-software-applications: 20,248 software-engineering: 16,992 cybersecurity-engineering: 11,476 software-engineering-leadership: 10,608 data-and-analytics: 10,379 machine-learning-and-ai-engineering: 8,793 full-stack-software-engineering: 8,369 java-software-engineering: 8,114 software-quality-assurance-and-testing: 6,250 devops-engineering: 5,381 </code></pre> Should be broken down with a tree that shows location.
  • acbart35 days ago
    So is there a place where this compares to data from last year, or previous years?
    • sp198235 days ago
      Unfortunately I don&#x27;t have it because I started working on this last year but I am curious to see how AI skills surface as the year progresses.
  • analog3135 days ago
    Good lord I though Indiana was leading the geographic listings for a moment.
  • sp198235 days ago
    Data is ex-china. Good luck to everyone looking for a new role in the new year.
    • dieselgate35 days ago
      What does “ex-china” mean, excluding China?<p>Edit: did a quick find-in-page on mobile for “china” and it appears 0 times. Though notably China is missing from the geographic charts
      • sp198235 days ago
        Yes, excluding china. I don’t have a lot of companies based in china in my crawl data currently.
        • seanmcdirmid35 days ago
          That makes sense, they have their own ecosystem for posting jobs there.
        • dieselgate34 days ago
          Got it, thanks. Good write up and presentation.
      • nine_k35 days ago
        Do they even hire engineers from abroad, or at least from the West?
        • re-thc35 days ago
          Why not? Tiktok certainly needed engineers?
  • KnuthIsGod35 days ago
    AI generated slop.. Crap like this should be banned.
    • visarga35 days ago
      Not all AI generated outputs are slop, usually it&#x27;s the low effort prompts that create slop. When you bring in external data or extensive human curation it is almost certainly not slop. I think many people put all AI outputs in the slop bucket but this is unfair to those who put a lot of thinking in their AI interactions. Slop is not given by the LLM, but by the human effort associated to that task. For code, it is the quality of the testing framework that sets the bar.