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  • einsteinx229 days ago
    &gt; The Tegra X2 is an SoC used in devices such as the Magic Leap One, and Tesla&#x27;s Autopilot 2 &amp; 2.5 promising a secure bootchain.<p>I guess they didn’t learn from the Tegra X1 which was famously responsible for the boot rom exploit on the original model of the Nintendo Switch.
    • Kototama28 days ago
      They did: &quot;Elise [...] worked in the past on Nintendo Switch hacking&quot;<p>This was written on the original posted page (before the link was changed) when you commented.
      • einsteinx228 days ago
        Oh I meant Nvidia didn’t learn from that mistake, not the researcher. If I were Nvidia and had such a high profile hack of a customer’s product, I’d do everything in my power not to repeat it haha.
  • einsteinx229 days ago
    Here’s the video of the talk. Not sure why the schedule page was linked.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.ccc.de&#x2F;v&#x2F;39c3-making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidia-s-secure-bootchain-and-breaking-some-tesla-autopilots-along-the-way" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.ccc.de&#x2F;v&#x2F;39c3-making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidi...</a>
  • willk29 days ago
    Here is the talk if anyone is interested: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.ccc.de&#x2F;v&#x2F;39c3-making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidia-s-secure-bootchain-and-breaking-some-tesla-autopilots-along-the-way" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;media.ccc.de&#x2F;v&#x2F;39c3-making-the-magic-leap-past-nvidi...</a>
  • cj29 days ago
    Huh, I thought Magic Leap went out of business.<p>Didn&#x27;t know they were still around!
    • GenericDev29 days ago
      Unfortunately they are. They&#x27;re a former shell of what they were. I think they&#x27;re changing their focus to lenses or something. Last I heard they&#x27;re partnering with Google and it&#x27;s absolute ass. The company is effectively dead and being carved out for parts by Google is my take.<p>It&#x27;s a real bummer because they were the only company I was actually interested in seeing pursue Augmented Reality. Now it&#x27;s literally the most evil companies Meta, Google, and Apple.<p>The 90s optimism of future tech is dead and all that&#x27;s left is whatever this is.
      • Analemma_29 days ago
        Your sympathy is severely misplaced. Magic Leap was Theranos-sized fraud from the beginning: they never had the goods, put out a whole bunch of misleading hype to persuade consumers and gullible investors that they had the goods [0], and eventually it caught up to them. Good riddance.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=E9r2Z5v_E9o" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=E9r2Z5v_E9o</a>
        • goldenarm29 days ago
          I agree they hyped the product too much, but contrary to Theranos, they did ship two products that actually moved AR tech forward. They just weren&#x27;t efficient enough and the product market fit wasn&#x27;t there. Even Apple is failing at AR.
      • DonHopkins29 days ago
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        • fredoralive29 days ago
          Don’t be so harsh, at least we got the Steam Deck out of all this.
          • mrguyorama28 days ago
            What connection do you believe exists between the Magic Leap company and the Valve steam deck?
            • fredoralive27 days ago
              I’m referring to the fact that there is strong speculation that the Steam Deck(Mk 1 &#x2F;LCD) SOC was originally commissioned by Magic Leap for their second generation unit, but when the first generation didn’t have whales leaping from the floor…
          • DonHopkins28 days ago
            In the same sense that we also got [total surrealistic non sequitur] out of it -- no causal connection.<p>Cocaine addled money laundering sexist nepotistic bro culture deserves all the harshness it gets.<p>I dare you to waste 6:17 minutes of your life that you will never get back watching this, and tell me they didn&#x27;t spend a huge chunk of their investor&#x27;s money on cocaine.<p>The synthesis of imagination: Rony Abovitz and Magic Leap at TEDxSarasota:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=w8J5BWL8oJY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=w8J5BWL8oJY</a><p>&gt;Surprises abound in this multimedia, surrealist talk&#x2F;performance by Rony Abovitz and Magic Leap at TEDxSarasota. Rony is a recognized innovator and entrepreneur, having co-founded the pioneering robotics company, MAKO Surgical Corp, which was recognized by Deloitte as the #1 fastest growing tech company in North America in 2011. Part of TEDxSarasota&#x27;s inaugural conference held on 12&#x2F;12&#x2F;12 with the theme &quot;Creativity Matters&quot; at the Historic Asolo Theatre in Sarasota, Florida.
  • amelius29 days ago
    Just curious, how fast can these embedded systems boot?
    • saidinesh529 days ago
      It really depends on the application.<p>With the similar&#x2F;even weaker socs (imx6 etc..), in the automotive domain, we used to target sub 5 second latency.. we had to get rid of things like even init and directly start the application..<p>Eg: 1.5 seconds here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;QbEYhQIjlQc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;QbEYhQIjlQc</a>
    • opello29 days ago
      There&#x27;s a popular slide deck[1] with common techniques for paring it back too.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bootlin.com&#x2F;doc&#x2F;training&#x2F;boot-time&#x2F;boot-time-slides.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bootlin.com&#x2F;doc&#x2F;training&#x2F;boot-time&#x2F;boot-time-slides....</a>
  • Graziano_M29 days ago
    I hope Nvidia&#x27;s new offerings (Orin, Thor, etc) don&#x27;t have the same issue in their bootROM. That would be an incredibly expensive mistake.
    • userbinator29 days ago
      I hope they do, for those who want actual ownership of what they bought.
      • bigyabai29 days ago
        Yeah, I&#x27;m sure it sucks for the OEM but my Nintendo Switch would be abandonware if not for Hekate bootloader.
  • robert_foss29 days ago
    Sounds really interesting. CCC is an amazing event.