38 comments

  • simonw19 hours ago
    Don&#x27;t miss how this works. It&#x27;s not a server-side application - this code runs entirely in your browser using SQLite compiled to WASM, but rather than fetching a full 22GB database it instead uses a clever hack that retrieves just &quot;shards&quot; of the SQLite database needed for the page you are viewing.<p>I watched it in the browser network panel and saw it fetch:<p><pre><code> https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;static-shards&#x2F;shard_1636.sqlite.gz https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;static-shards&#x2F;shard_1635.sqlite.gz https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;static-shards&#x2F;shard_1634.sqlite.gz </code></pre> As I paginated to previous days.<p>It&#x27;s reminiscent of that brilliant SQLite.js VFS trick from a few years ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;phiresky&#x2F;sql.js-httpvfs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;phiresky&#x2F;sql.js-httpvfs</a> - only that one used HTTP range headers, this one uses sharded files instead.<p>The interactive SQL query interface at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;?view=query" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;?view=query</a> asks you to select which shards to run the query against, there are 1636 total.
    • ncruces15 hours ago
      A read-only VFS doing this can be really simple, with the right API…<p>This is my VFS: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ncruces&#x2F;go-sqlite3&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;vfs&#x2F;readervfs&#x2F;reader.go" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ncruces&#x2F;go-sqlite3&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;vfs&#x2F;readervf...</a><p>And using it with range requests: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pkg.go.dev&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ncruces&#x2F;go-sqlite3&#x2F;vfs&#x2F;readervfs#example-package-Http" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pkg.go.dev&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ncruces&#x2F;go-sqlite3&#x2F;vfs&#x2F;readerv...</a><p>And having it work with a Zstandard compressed SQLite database, is one library away: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pkg.go.dev&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;SaveTheRbtz&#x2F;zstd-seekable-format-go&#x2F;pkg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pkg.go.dev&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;SaveTheRbtz&#x2F;zstd-seekable-form...</a>
      • keepamovin5 hours ago
        Your page is served over sqlitevfs with Range queries? Let&#x27;s try this here.
      • pdyc9 hours ago
        this does not caches the data right? it would always fetch from network? by any chance do you know of solution&#x2F;extension that caches the data it would make it so much more efficient.
        • ncruces8 hours ago
          The package I&#x27;m using in the HTTP example can be configured to cache data: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;psanford&#x2F;httpreadat?tab=readme-ov-file#caching" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;psanford&#x2F;httpreadat?tab=readme-ov-file#ca...</a><p>But, also, SQLite caches data; you can simply increase the page cache.
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Thanks! I&#x27;m glad you enjoyed the sausage being made. There&#x27;s a little easter egg if you click on the compact disc icon.<p>And I just now added a &#x27;me&#x27; view. Enter your username and it will show your comments&#x2F;posts on any day. So you can scrub back through your 2006 - 2025 retrospective using the calendar buttons.
      • oblosys14 minutes ago
        I almost got tricked into trying to figure out what was Easter eggy about August 9 2015 :-) There&#x27;s a clarifying tooltip on the link, but it is mostly obscured by the image&#x27;s &quot;Archive&quot; title attribute.
        • keepamovin10 minutes ago
          Oh, shit that was the problem! You solved the bug! I was trying to figure out why the right tooltip didn&#x27;t display. A linked wrapped in an image wrapped in an easter egg! Or something. Ha, thank you. Will fix :)
    • nextaccountic17 hours ago
      Is there anything more production grade built around the same idea of HTTP range requests like that sqlite thing? This has so much potential
      • Humphrey16 hours ago
        Yes — PMTiles is exactly that: a production-ready, single-file, static container for vector tiles built around HTTP range requests.<p>I’ve used it in production to self-host Australia-only maps on S3. We generated a single ~900 MB PMTiles file from OpenStreetMap (Australia only, up to Z14) and uploaded it to S3. Clients then fetch just the required byte ranges for each vector tile via HTTP range requests.<p>It’s fast, scales well, and bandwidth costs are negligible because clients only download the exact data they need.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.protomaps.com&#x2F;pmtiles&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.protomaps.com&#x2F;pmtiles&#x2F;</a>
        • simonw16 hours ago
          PMTiles is absurdly great software.
          • Humphrey16 hours ago
            I know right! I&#x27;d never heard of HTTP Range requests until PMTiles - but gee it&#x27;s an elegant solution.
            • keepamovin6 hours ago
              Hadn&#x27;t seen PMTiles before, but that matches the mental model exactly! I chose physical file sharding over Range Requests on a single db because it felt safer for &#x27;dumb&#x27; static hosts like CF. - less risk of a single 22GB file getting stuck or cached weirdly. Maybe it would work
          • hyperbolablabla5 hours ago
            My only gripe is that the tile metadata is stored as JSON, which I get is for compatibility reasons with existing software, but for e.g. a simple C program to implement the full spec you need to ship a JSON parser on top of the PMTiles parser itself.
            • seg_lol1 hour ago
              A JSON parser is less than a thousand lines of code.
        • nextaccountic13 hours ago
          That&#x27;s neat, but.. is it just for cartographic data?<p>I want something like a db with indexes
          • jtbaker7 hours ago
            Look into using duckdb with remote http&#x2F;s3 parquet files. The parquet files are organized as columnar vectors, grouped into chunks of rows. Each row group stores metadata about the set it contains that can be used to prune out data that doesn’t need to be scanned by the query engine. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duckdb.org&#x2F;docs&#x2F;stable&#x2F;guides&#x2F;performance&#x2F;indexing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duckdb.org&#x2F;docs&#x2F;stable&#x2F;guides&#x2F;performance&#x2F;indexing</a><p>LanceDB has a similar mechanism for operating on remote vector embeddings&#x2F;text search.<p>It’s a fun time to be a dev in this space!
      • simonw17 hours ago
        There was a UK government GitHub repo that did something interesting with this kind of trick against S3 but I checked just now and the repo is a 404. Here are my notes about what it did: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2025&#x2F;Feb&#x2F;7&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2025&#x2F;Feb&#x2F;7&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs&#x2F;</a><p>Looks like it&#x27;s still on PyPI though: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pypi.org&#x2F;project&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pypi.org&#x2F;project&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs&#x2F;</a><p>You can see inside it with my PyPI package explorer: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;zip-wheel-explorer?package=sqlite-s3vfs#sqlite_s3vfs.py" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tools.simonwillison.net&#x2F;zip-wheel-explorer?package=s...</a>
        • simonw16 hours ago
          I recovered it from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.softwareheritage.org&#x2F;browse&#x2F;origin&#x2F;directory&#x2F;?origin_url=https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;uktrade&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.softwareheritage.org&#x2F;browse&#x2F;origin&#x2F;directory...</a> and pushed a fresh copy to GitHub here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;simonw&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;simonw&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs</a><p>This comment was helpful in figuring out how to get a full Git clone out of the heritage archive: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37516523#37517378">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37516523#37517378</a><p>Here&#x27;s a TIL I wrote up of the process: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;til.simonwillison.net&#x2F;github&#x2F;software-archive-recovery" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;til.simonwillison.net&#x2F;github&#x2F;software-archive-recove...</a>
          • QuantumNomad_15 hours ago
            I also have a locally cloned copy of that repo from when it was on GitHub. Same latest commit as your copy of it.<p>From what I see in GitHub in your copy of the repo, it looks like you don’t have the tags.<p>Do you have the tags locally?<p>If you don’t have the tags, I can push a copy of the repo to GitHub too and you can get the tags from my copy.
            • simonw15 hours ago
              I don&#x27;t have the tags! It would be awesome if you could push that.
              • QuantumNomad_15 hours ago
                Uploaded here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Quantum-Nomad&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Quantum-Nomad&#x2F;sqlite-s3vfs</a>
                • simonw15 hours ago
                  Thanks for that, though actually it turns out I had them after all - I needed to run:<p><pre><code> git push --tags origin</code></pre>
          • bspammer13 hours ago
            Doing all this in an hour is such a good example of how absurdly efficient you can be with LLMs.
          • AceJohnny216 hours ago
            didn&#x27;t you do something similar for Datasette, Simon?
            • simonw15 hours ago
              Nothing smart with HTTP range requests yet - I have <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lite.datasette.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lite.datasette.io</a> which runs the full Python server app in the browser via WebAssembly and Pyodide but it still works by fetching the entire SQLite file at once.
              • AceJohnny215 hours ago
                oh! I must&#x27;ve been confused with your TIL where you linked to an explainer of this technique<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2021&#x2F;May&#x2F;2&#x2F;hosting-sqlite-databases-on-github-pages&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2021&#x2F;May&#x2F;2&#x2F;hosting-sqlite-database...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;phiresky.github.io&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2021&#x2F;hosting-sqlite-databases-on-github-pages&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;phiresky.github.io&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2021&#x2F;hosting-sqlite-database...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27016630">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27016630</a>
        • billywhizz11 hours ago
          i played around with this a while back. you can see a demo here. it also lets you pull new WAL segments in and apply them to the current database. never got much time to go any further with it than this.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;just.billywhizz.io&#x2F;sqlite&#x2F;demo&#x2F;#https:&#x2F;&#x2F;raw.githubusercontent.com&#x2F;just-js&#x2F;just.billywhizz.io&#x2F;refs&#x2F;heads&#x2F;main&#x2F;sqlite&#x2F;demo&#x2F;db&#x2F;chinook.db" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;just.billywhizz.io&#x2F;sqlite&#x2F;demo&#x2F;#https:&#x2F;&#x2F;raw.githubus...</a>
      • __turbobrew__11 hours ago
        gdal vsis3 dynamically fetches chunks of rasters from s3 using range requests. It is the underlying technology for several mapping systems.<p>There is also a file format to optimize this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cogeo.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cogeo.org&#x2F;</a>
      • ericd17 hours ago
        This is somewhat related to a large dataset browsing service a friend and I worked on a while back - we made index files, and the browser ran a lightweight query planner to fetch static chunks which could be served from S3&#x2F;torrents&#x2F;whatever. It worked pretty well, and I think there’s a lot of potential for this style of data serving infra.
      • omneity13 hours ago
        I tried to implement something similar to optimize sampling semi-random documents from (very) large datasets on Huggingface, unfortunately their API doesn&#x27;t support range requests well.
      • mootothemax10 hours ago
        This is pretty much well what is so remarkable about parquet files; not only do you get seekable data, you can fetch only the columns you want too.<p>I believe that there are also indexing opportunities (not necessarily via eg hive partitioning) but frankly - am kinda out of my depth pn it.
      • tlarkworthy10 hours ago
        Parquet&#x2F;iceberg
      • 651014 hours ago
        I want to see a bittorrent version :P
    • maxloh11 hours ago
      I am curios why they don&#x27;t use a single file and HTTP Range Requests instead. PMTiles (a distribution of OpenStreetMap) uses that.
      • keepamovin10 hours ago
        This would be a neat idea to try. Want to add a PR? Bench different &quot;hackends&quot; to see how DuckDB, SQLite shards, or range queries perform?
    • meander_water12 hours ago
      I love this so much, on my phone this is much faster than actual HN (I know it&#x27;s only a read-only version).<p>Where did you get the 22GB figure from? On the site it says:<p>&gt; 46,399,072 items, 1,637 shards, 8.5GB, spanning Oct 9, 2006 to Dec 28, 2025
      • amitmahbubani11 hours ago
        &gt; Where did you get the 22GB figure from?<p>The HN post title (:
    • tehlike19 hours ago
      Vfs support is amazing.
    • sodafountan11 hours ago
      The GitHub page is no longer available, which is a shame because I&#x27;m really interested in how this works.<p>How was the entirety of HN stored in a single SQLite database? In other words, how was the data acquired? And how does the page load instantly if there&#x27;s 22GB of data having to be downloaded to the browser?
      • keepamovin9 hours ago
        You can see it now, forgot to make it public.<p>- 1. download_hn.sh - bash script that queries BigQuery and saves the data to *.json.gz<p>- 2. etl-hn.js - does the sharding and ID -&gt; shard map, plus the user stats shards.<p>- 3. Then either npx serve docs or upload to CloudFlare Pages.<p>The .&#x2F;toool&#x2F;s&#x2F;predeploy-checks.sh script basically runs the entire pipeline. You can do it unattended with AUTO_RUN=true
  • yread17 hours ago
    I wonder how much smaller it could get with some compression. You could probably encode &quot;This website hijacks the scrollbar and I don&#x27;t like it&quot; comments into just a few bits.
    • Rendello16 hours ago
      The hard-coded dictionary wouldn&#x27;t be much stranger than Brotli&#x27;s:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27160590">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27160590</a>
      • maxbond9 hours ago
        You can use a BPE variant like SentencePiece to identify these patterns rather than hard coding them.
    • jacquesm16 hours ago
      That&#x27;s at least 45%, then you can leave out all of my comments and you&#x27;re left with only 5!
    • hamburglar12 hours ago
      It might be a neat experiment to use ai to produce canonicalized paraphrasings of HN arguments so they could be compared directly and compress well.
    • rossant8 hours ago
      Guilty.
  • kamranjon13 hours ago
    It&#x27;d be great if you could add it to Kiwix[1] somehow (not sure what the process is for that but 100rabbits figured it out for their site) - I use it all the time now that I have a dumb phone - I have the entirety of wikipedia, wiktionary and 100rabbits all offline.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kiwix.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kiwix.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;</a>
    • codazoda11 hours ago
      I love that you have 100r.ca on that short list.
    • endofreach9 hours ago
      what dumb phone do you use?<p>and why do you want wikipedia in your pocket, but not a smartphone? where do you draw the line?<p>(doing a lot of work in that area, so i am asking to learn from someone who might think alike)
      • kamranjon9 hours ago
        I use the Mudita Kompakt specifically cause it allows sideloading so I can still have a few extras. Right now I have Kiwix and Libby. It works really well.<p>I have a $10 a month plan from US cellular with only 2gigs so I try to keep everything offline that I can.<p>Honestly it&#x27;s mostly the news... so I draw the line at browser, I&#x27;ll never install a browser, that&#x27;s basically something I can do when I sit down at a PC. I read quite a bit and I like to have the ability to look up a word or a historical event or some reference from something I read using Kiwix and it&#x27;s been great for that, just needed to add a 512gb micro sd card. And Libby I just use at the gym when I&#x27;m on the treadmill.
  • zkmon19 hours ago
    Similar to Single-page applications (SPA), single-table application (STA) might become a thing. Just a shard a table on multiple keys and serve the shards as static files, provided that the data is Ok to share, similar to sharing static html content.
    • jhd317 hours ago
      [The Baked Data architectural pattern](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2021&#x2F;Jul&#x2F;28&#x2F;baked-data&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simonwillison.net&#x2F;2021&#x2F;Jul&#x2F;28&#x2F;baked-data&#x2F;</a>)
    • jesprenj18 hours ago
      do you mean single database? it&#x27;d be quite hard if not impossible to make applications using a single table (no relations). reddit did it though, they have a huge table of &quot;things&quot; iirc.
      • mburns17 hours ago
        That is a common misconception.<p>&gt; Next, we&#x27;ve got more than just two tables. The quote&#x2F;paraphrase doesn&#x27;t make it clear, but we&#x27;ve got two tables per thing. That means Accounts have an &quot;account_thing&quot; and an &quot;account_data&quot; table, Subreddits have a &quot;subreddit_thing&quot; and &quot;subreddit_data&quot; table, etc.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;programming&#x2F;comments&#x2F;z9sm8&#x2F;comment&#x2F;c62uz89&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;programming&#x2F;comments&#x2F;z9sm8&#x2F;comment&#x2F;...</a>
        • rplnt16 hours ago
          And the important lesson from that the k&#x2F;v-like aspect of it. That the &quot;schema&quot; is horizontal (is that a thing?) and not column-based. But I actually only read it on their blog IIRC and never even got the full details - that there&#x27;s still a third ID column. Thanks for the link.
  • kristianp15 hours ago
    I tried &quot;select * from items limit 10&quot; and it is slowly iterating through the shards without returning. I got up to 60 shards before I stopped. Selecting just one shard makes that query return instantly. As mentioned elsewhere I think duckdb can work faster by only reading the part of a parquet file it needs over http.<p>I was getting an error that the users and user_domains tables aren&#x27;t available, but you just need to change the shard filter to the user stats shard.
    • piperswe12 hours ago
      Doesn&#x27;t `LIMIT` just limit the amount of rows returned, rather than the amount read &amp; processed?
      • SQLite4 hours ago
        That depends on the query. SQLite tries to use LIMIT to restrict the amount of reading that it does. It is often successful at that. But some queries, by their very nature, logically require reading the whole input in order to compute the correct answer, regardless of whether or not there is a LIMIT clause.
      • lucb1e12 hours ago
        That&#x27;s what it does, but if I&#x27;m not mistaken (at least in my experience with MariaDB) it&#x27;ll also return immediately once it ran up to the limit and not try to process further rows. If you have an expensive subquery in the SELECT (...) AS `column_name`, it won&#x27;t run that for every row before returning the first 10 (when using LIMIT 10) unless you ORDERed BY that column_name. Other components like the WHERE clause might also require that it reads every row before finding the ten matches. So mostly yes but not necessarily
      • faxmeyourcode8 hours ago
        The limit clause isn&#x27;t official&#x2F;standard ansi sql, so it&#x27;s up to the rdbms to implement. Your assumption is true for bigquery (infamously) but not true for things like snowflake, duckdb, etc.
    • ncruces15 hours ago
      That&#x27;s odd. If it was a VFS, that&#x27;s not what I&#x27;d expect would happen. Maybe it&#x27;s not a VFS?
  • carbocation20 hours ago
    That repo is throwing up a 404 for me.<p>Question - did you consider tradeoffs between duckdb (or other columnar stores) and SQLite?
    • keepamovin20 hours ago
      No, I just went straight to sqlite. What is duckdb?
      • simonw19 hours ago
        One interesting feature of DuckDB is that it can run queries against HTTP ranges of a static file hosted via HTTPS, and there&#x27;s an official WebAssembly build of it that can do that same trick.<p>So you can dump e.g. all of Hacker News in a single multi-GB Parquet file somewhere and build a client-side JavaScript application that can run queries against that without having to fetch the whole thing.<p>You can run searches on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lil.law.harvard.edu&#x2F;data-gov-archive&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lil.law.harvard.edu&#x2F;data-gov-archive&#x2F;</a> and watch the network panel to see DuckDB in action.
        • keepamovin10 hours ago
          In that case, then using duckdb might be even more performant than using what we’re doing here.<p>It would be an interesting experiment to add the duckdb hackend
      • fsiefken19 hours ago
        DuckDB is an open-source column-oriented Relational Database Management System (RDBMS). It&#x27;s designed to provide high performance on complex queries against large databases in embedded configuration.<p>It has transparent compression built-in and has support for natural language queries. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;buckenhofer.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;11&#x2F;agentic-ai-with-duckdb-and-smolagents-natural-language-queries-for-analytics&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;buckenhofer.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;11&#x2F;agentic-ai-with-duckdb-and-s...</a><p>&quot;DICT FSST (Dictionary FSST) represents a hybrid compression technique that combines the benefits of Dictionary Encoding with the string-level compression capabilities of FSST. This approach was implemented and integrated into DuckDB as part of ongoing efforts to optimize string storage and processing performance.&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;homepages.cwi.nl&#x2F;~boncz&#x2F;msc&#x2F;2025-YanLannaAlexandre.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;homepages.cwi.nl&#x2F;~boncz&#x2F;msc&#x2F;2025-YanLannaAlexandre.p...</a>
      • cess1119 hours ago
        It is very similar to SQLite in that it can run in-process and store its data as a file.<p>It&#x27;s different in that it is tailored to analytics, among other things storage is columnar, and it can run off some common data analytics file formats.
      • 1vuio0pswjnm715 hours ago
        &quot;What is duckdb?&quot;<p>duckdb is a 45M dynamically-linked binary (amd64)<p>sqlite3 1.7M static binary (amd64)<p>DuckDB is a 6yr-old project<p>SQLite is a 25yr-old project
    • jacquesm16 hours ago
      Maybe it got nuked by MS? The rest of their repo&#x27;s are up.
      • keepamovin7 hours ago
        Hey jacquesm! No, I just forgot to make it public.<p>BUT I <i>did</i> try to push the entire 10GB of shards to GitHub (no LFS, no thanks, money), and after the 20 minutes compressing objects etc, &quot;remote hang up unexpectedly&quot;<p>To be expected I guess. I did not think GH Pages would be able to do this. So have been repeating:<p><pre><code> wrangler pages deploy docs --project-name static-news --commit-dirty=true </code></pre> on changes and first time CF Pages user here, much impressed!
        • jacquesm6 hours ago
          Pretty neat project. I never thought you could do this in the first place, very much inspiring. I&#x27;ve made a little project that stores all of its data locally but still runs in the browser to protect against take downs and because I don&#x27;t think you should store your precious data online more than you have to, eventually it all rots away. Your project takes this to the next level.
          • keepamovin4 hours ago
            Thanks, bud, that means a lot! Would like to see your versions of the data stored offline idea, it&#x27;s very cool.
    • 3eb7988a166319 hours ago
      While I suspect DuckDB would compress better, given the ubiquity of SQLite, it seems a fine standard choice.
      • peheje6 hours ago
        the data is dominated by big unique TEXT columns, unsure how that can much compress better when grouped - but would be interesting to know
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      i forgot to set repo to public. Fixed now
    • linhns20 hours ago
      Not the author here. I’m not sure about DuckDB, but SQLite allows you to simply use a file as a database and for archiving, it’s really helpful. One file, that’s it.
      • cobolcomesback19 hours ago
        DuckDB does as well. A super simplified explanation of duckdb is that it’s sqlite but columnar, and so is better for analytics of large datasets.
        • formerly_proven19 hours ago
          The schema is this: items(id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, type TEXT, time INTEGER, by TEXT, title TEXT, text TEXT, url TEXT<p>Doesn&#x27;t scream columnar database to me.
          • embedding-shape19 hours ago
            At a glance, that is missing (at least) a `parent` or `parent_id` attribute which items in HN can have (and you kind of need if you want to render comments), see <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;api&#x2F;v1&#x2F;items&#x2F;46436741" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;api&#x2F;v1&#x2F;items&#x2F;46436741</a>
            • agolliver19 hours ago
              Edges are a separate table
  • 7777777phil3 hours ago
    Absolutely love this!! I have been analyzing a lot of HN data lately [1] so I backtested my hypothesis on your dataset and ran some stats: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;philippdubach.com&#x2F;standalone&#x2F;hackerbook-stats&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;philippdubach.com&#x2F;standalone&#x2F;hackerbook-stats&#x2F;</a><p>[1]<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=46434575" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=46434575</a>
    • keepamovin2 hours ago
      That is so cool! I love that this passion fun project inspired and helped your paper. So cool!
  • Xyra7 hours ago
    Similar in spirit to a recent tool I recently posted Show HN on, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exopriors.com&#x2F;scry" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exopriors.com&#x2F;scry</a>. You can use Claude Code to SQL+vector query HackerNews and many other high quality public commons sites, exceptionally well-indexed and usually 5+ minute query timeout limits, so you can run seriously large research queries, to rapidly refine your worldview (particular because you can do easily to EXHAUSTIVE exploration).
    • keepamovin1 hour ago
      This looks cool but can you make a &quot;Google Search Box&quot; page where I don&#x27;t have to sign in but can use it? It&#x27;s just a bit of friction and I feel unbothered to overcome it. It&#x27;s not personal to you - it&#x27;s just how I feel about anything that looks unknown and interesting I just want to try, not have to sign up. For now. You know?
    • visarga2 hours ago
      I like your concept of indexing high quality sources for RAG. For many queries we might not need the usual search engines.
  • rcarmo1 hour ago
    Nice. I wonder if there’s any way to quickly get a view for a whole year.
  • Paul-E19 hours ago
    That&#x27;s pretty neat!<p>I did something similar. I build a tool[1] to import the Project Arctic Shift dumps[2] of reddit into sqlite. It was mostly an exercise to experiment with Rust and SQLite (HN&#x27;s two favorite topics). If you don&#x27;t build a FTS5 index and import without WAL (--unsafe-mode), import of every reddit comment and submission takes a bit over 24 hours and produces a ~10TB DB.<p>SQLite offers a lot of cool json features that would let you store the raw json and operate on that, but I eschewed them in favor of parsing only once at load time. THat also lets me normalize the data a bit.<p>I find that building the DB is pretty &quot;fast&quot;, but queries run much faster if I immediately vacuum the DB after building it. The vacuum operation is actually slower than the original import, taking a few days to finish.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Paul-E&#x2F;Pushshift-Importer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Paul-E&#x2F;Pushshift-Importer</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ArthurHeitmann&#x2F;arctic_shift&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;download_links.md" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ArthurHeitmann&#x2F;arctic_shift&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;d...</a>
    • Xyra6 hours ago
      Holy cow, I didn&#x27;t know getting reddit was that straightforward. I am building public readonly-SQL+vector databases optimized for exploring high-quality public commons with Claude Code (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exopriors.com&#x2F;scry" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exopriors.com&#x2F;scry</a>), I so cannot wait until some funding source comes in and I can upgrade to a $1500&#x2F;month Hetzner server and pay the ~$1k to embed all that.
    • s_ting76518 hours ago
      You could check out SQLite&#x27;s auto_vacuum which reclaims space without rebuilding the entire db <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sqlite.org&#x2F;pragma.html#pragma_auto_vacuum" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sqlite.org&#x2F;pragma.html#pragma_auto_vacuum</a>
      • Paul-E15 hours ago
        I haven&#x27;t tested that, so I&#x27;m not sure if it would work. The import only inserts rows, it doesn&#x27;t delete, so I don&#x27;t think that is the cause of fragmentation. I suspect this line in the vacuum docs:<p>&gt; The VACUUM command may change the ROWIDs of entries in any tables that do not have an explicit INTEGER PRIMARY KEY.<p>means SQLite does something to organize by rowid and that this is doing most of the work.<p>Reddit post&#x2F;comment IDs are 1:1 with integers, though expressed in a different base that is more friendly to URLs. I map decoded post&#x2F;comment IDs to INTEGER PRIMARY KEYs on their respective tables. I suspect the vacuum operation sorts the tables by their reddit post ID and something about this sorting improves tables scans, which in turn helps building indices quickly after standing up the DB.
  • m-p-316 hours ago
    Looks like the repo was taken down (404).<p>That&#x27;s too bad, I&#x27;d like to see the inner-working with a subset of data, even with placeholders for the posts and comments.
    • 3abiton15 hours ago
      That was fast. I was looking into recent HN datasets, and they are impossible find.
      • xnx15 hours ago
        Complete and continuously updated: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.clickhouse.com&#x2F;play?user=play#U0VMRUNUIG1heCh0aW1lKSBGUk9NIGhhY2tlcm5ld3NfaGlzdG9yeQ==" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.clickhouse.com&#x2F;play?user=play#U0VMRUNUIG1heCh0a...</a>
        • gettingoverit12 hours ago
          If the last story on HN was at December 26, that is.
          • rolymath7 hours ago
            Continuously updated != instantly updated
            • dspillett2 hours ago
              Continuously would suggest to me that the data is never far out of date, and a few days might be considered far in this case.<p>Perhaps “regularly updated” would be less contentious wordage?
      • scsh11 hours ago
        It&#x27;s available on BigQuery and is updated frequently enough(daily I think).
    • octoberfranklin10 hours ago
      But why would they take it down?
      • keepamovin10 hours ago
        Sorry i just forgot to set it to public! It’s there now
  • WadeGrimridge4 hours ago
    threw some heatmaps together of post volume and average score by day and time (15min intervals)<p>story volume (all time): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;pBTTRznP" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;pBTTRznP</a><p>average score (all time): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;KcvVjx8p" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;KcvVjx8p</a><p>story volume (since 2020): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;cKC5d7Pp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;cKC5d7Pp</a><p>average score (since 2020): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;WpN20kfh" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;WpN20kfh</a>
    • WadeGrimridge3 hours ago
      added median too.<p>median score (all time): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;gZV5QVMG" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;gZV5QVMG</a><p>median score (since 2020): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;Gfv8T7k8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;Gfv8T7k8</a>
      • keepamovin2 hours ago
        This is fascinating, I love this! What do you create these heat maps with? Did you use the BigQuery data or download from the site?
        • WadeGrimridge1 hour ago
          thanks! i downloaded them and used python to make these
          • keepamovin27 minutes ago
            So cool! Would it be impossible fro me to use them on the Archive stats page (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;?view=archive" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;?view=archive</a>) ? If you&#x27;re okay with that any links&#x2F;credit line details?<p>Totally cool if not, just super interesting!
    • setnone3 hours ago
      can confirm, i&#x27;m usually very generous with upvotes on sundays at noon
  • adamszakal2 hours ago
    Is it a thing that the design is almost unusable on a mobile phone? The tech making this possible is beyond cool, but it&#x27;s just presented in such a brutal way for phone users, even though fixing it would be super simple.
    • keepamovin2 hours ago
      Really? Let me know how I can help. What would you like to see fixed?
  • Sn0wCoder16 hours ago
    Site does not load on Firefox console error says &#x27;Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: can&#x27;t access property &quot;wasm&quot;, sqlite3 is null&#x27;<p>Guess its common knowledge that SharedArrayBuffer (SQLite wasm) does not work with FF due to Cross-Origin Attacks (i just found out ;).<p>Once the initial chunk of data loads the rest load almost instantly on Chrome. Can you please fix the GitHub link (current 404) would like to peak at the code. Thank you!
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Damn. Will try to fix for FF.<p><i>edit:</i> I just tested with FF latest, seems to be working.
  • sieep19 hours ago
    What a reminder on how text is so much more efficient than video, its crazy! Could you imagine the same amount of knowledge (or dribble) but in video form? I wonder how large that would be.
    • jacquesm16 hours ago
      That&#x27;s what&#x27;s so sad about youtube. 20 minute videos to encode a hundred words of usable content to get you to click on a link. The inefficiency is just staggering.
      • Rendello15 hours ago
        Youtube can be excellent for explanations. A picture&#x27;s worth a thousand words, and you can fit a lot of decent pictures in a 20 minute video. The signal-to-noise can be high, of course.
    • ivanjermakov18 hours ago
      Average high quality 1080p60 video has bitrate of 5Mbps, which is equivalent to 120k English words per second. With average English speech being 150wpm, we end up with text being 50 thousand times more space efficient.<p>Converting 22GB of uncompressed text into video essay lands us at ~1PB or 1000TB.
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Right? 20 years, probably 10s millions of human hours of interactions, and it’s only as much as a couple DVDs.
    • fsiefken18 hours ago
      one could use a video llm to generate the video, diagrams or the stills automatically based on the text. except when it&#x27;s boardgames playthroughs or programming i just transcribe to text, summarise and read youtube video&#x27;s.
      • deskamess17 hours ago
        How do you read youtube videos? Very curious as I have been wanting to watch PDF&#x27;s scroll by slowly on a large TV. I am interested in the workflow of getting a pdf&#x2F;document into a scrolling video format. These days NotebookLM may be an option but I am curious if there is something custom. If I can get it into video form (mp4) then I can even deliver it via plex.
        • fsiefken13 hours ago
          I use yt-dlp to download the transcript, and if it&#x27;s not available i can get the audio file and run it through parakeet locally. Then I have the plain text, which could be read out loud (kind of defeating the purpose), but perhaps at triple speed with a computer voice that&#x27;s still understandble at that speed. I could also summarize it with an llm. With pandoc or typst I can convert to single column or mult column pdf to print or watch on tv or my smart glasses. If I strip the vowels and make the font smaller I can fit more!<p>One could convert the Markdown&#x2F;PDF to a very long image first with pandoc+wkhtml, then use ffmpeg to crop and move the viewport slowly over the image, this scrolls at 20 pixels per second for 30s - with the mpv player one could change speed dynamically through keys.<p>ffmpeg -loop 1 -i long_image.png -vf &quot;crop=iw:ih&#x2F;10:0:t*20&quot; -t 30 -pix_fmt yuv420p output.mp4<p>Alternatively one could use a Rapid Serial Visual Presentation &#x2F; Speedreading &#x2F; Spritz technique to output to mp4 or use dedicated rsvp program where one can change speed.<p>One could also output to a braille &#x27;screen&#x27;.<p>Scrolling mp4 text on the the TV or Laptop to read is a good idea for my mother and her macula degeneration, or perhaps I should make use of an easier to see&#x2F;read magnification browser plugin tool.
      • Barbing18 hours ago
        Can be nice to pull a raw transcript and have it formatted as HTML (formatting&#x2F;punctuation fixes applied).<p>Best locally of course to avoid “I burned a lake for this?” guilt.
        • fsiefken13 hours ago
          yes, yt-dlp can download the transcript, and if it&#x27;s not available i can get the audio file and run it through parakeet locally.
  • zX41ZdbW19 hours ago
    The query tab looks quite complex with all these content shards: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;?view=query" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackerbook.dosaygo.com&#x2F;?view=query</a><p>I have a much simpler database: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.clickhouse.com&#x2F;play?user=play#U0VMRUNUIHRpbWUsIHR5cGUsIHNjb3JlLCBpZCwgdGl0bGUsIHRleHQgRlJPTSBoYWNrZXJuZXdzX2hpc3RvcnkgV0hFUkUgYnkgPSAna2VlcGFtb3ZpbicgT1JERVIgQlkgdGltZSBERVND" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.clickhouse.com&#x2F;play?user=play#U0VMRUNUIHRpbWUsI...</a>
    • embedding-shape19 hours ago
      Does your database also runs offline&#x2F;locally in the browser? Seems to be the reason for the large number of shards.
      • zX41ZdbW10 hours ago
        You can run it locally, but it is a client-server architecture, which means that something has to run behind the browser.
  • abixb19 hours ago
    Wonder if you could turn this into a .zim file for offline browsing with an offline browser like Kiwix, etc. [0]<p>I&#x27;ve been taking frequent &quot;offline-only-day&quot; breaks to consolidate whatever I&#x27;ve been learning, and Kiwix has been a great tool for reference (offline Wikipedia, StackOverflow and whatnot).<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kiwix.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;the-new-kiwix-library-is-available&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kiwix.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;the-new-kiwix-library-is-available&#x2F;</a>
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Oh that&#x27;s a cool idea. If you want to take a crack at writing the script, the repo is open!
    • Barbing18 hours ago
      Oh this should TOTALLY be available to those who are scrolling through sources on the Kiwix app!
  • diyseguy15 hours ago
    link no workie: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;DOSAYGO-STUDIO&#x2F;HackerBook" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;DOSAYGO-STUDIO&#x2F;HackerBook</a>
    • keepamovin9 hours ago
      Fixed now. Forgot to make public. I also added a script:<p><pre><code> .&#x2F;toool&#x2F;download-site.mjs --help </code></pre> To let you download the entire site over HTTPS so you don&#x27;t need to &quot;build it&quot; by running the pipeline.<p>That way it&#x27;s truly offline.
  • RyJones4 hours ago
    Neat. I keep wanting to build something like this for GitHub audit logs, but at ~5 tb, probably a little much
  • tevon19 hours ago
    The link seems to be down, was it taken down?
    • scsh18 hours ago
      Probably just forgot to make it public.
  • modeless13 hours ago
    It&#x27;s really a shame that comment scores are hidden forever. Would the admins consider publishing them after stories are old enough that voting is closed? It would be great to have them for archives and search indices and projects like this.
    • pilingual10 hours ago
      I wrote to hn@ and asked for this as a feature request:<p>&quot;1. Delayed Karma Display. I understand why comment karma was hidden. I don&#x27;t see the harm in un-hiding karma after some time. If not 24 hours, then 72-168 hours. This would help me read through threads with 1300 comments.&quot;<p>This was last January. While I asked for a few more features, it is the only one that seems essential as HN grows with massive threads.
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Fear not. I have a collaborative project designed to address this.
      • vunderba9 hours ago
        They&#x27;re referring to scores on individual <i>COMMENTS</i> - this information isn&#x27;t available via the HN Firebase API.<p>The only way you could theoretically extract everyone&#x27;s comment scores (at least the top level ones) would be like this if you&#x27;re a complete madman:<p>1. Wait 48 hours so the article is effectively dead<p>2. Post a new comment using an account called <i>ThePresident</i><p>3. Create a swarm of a thousand shill user accounts called <i>Voter1</i>, <i>Voter2</i>, etc.<p>4. Use a single account at a time and upvote <i>ThePresident</i><p>5. Recheck the page to see if <i>ThePresident</i> has moved above a user(s) post<p>6. Record the score for that user and assign it to the tracked story&#x27;s history<p>7. Repeat from (4)
        • keepamovin9 hours ago
          I know that! I have a collaborative project to make it sort of available.<p>But the idea I have is not like that at all - it&#x27;s much nicer on everyone&#x27;s ethics. Stay tuned! :)
  • 3eb7988a166313 hours ago
    Did anyone get a copy of this before it was pulled? If GitHub is not keen, could it be uploaded to HuggingFace or some other service which hosts large assets?<p>I have always known I could scrape HN, but I would much rather take a neat little package.
  • dspillett16 hours ago
    Is there a public dump of the data anywhere that this is based upon, or have they scraped it themselves?<p>Such as DB might be entertaining to play with, and the threadedness of comments would be useful for beginners to practise efficient recursive queries (more so than the StackExchange dumps, for instance).
    • thomasmarton16 hours ago
      While not a dump per se, there is an API where you can get HN data programmatically, no scraping needed.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;HackerNews&#x2F;API" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;HackerNews&#x2F;API</a>
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Yes, you can see the download HN bash script in the repository now that simply extract the data to your local machine from BigQuery and saves it as a series of gzip JSON files
      • dspillett2 hours ago
        Ah, the repo was 404ing for me last time I checked (seems fine now) so I couldn&#x27;t inspect that. I&#x27;ll have a play later.
  • yupyupyups19 hours ago
    1 hour passed and it&#x27;s already nuked?<p>Thank you btw
  • spit2wind17 hours ago
    This is pretty neat! The calendar didn&#x27;t work well for me. I could only seem to navigate by month. And when I selected the earliest day (after much tapping), nothing seemed to be updated.<p>Nonetheless, random access history is cool.
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Cna you let me know? I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s some weirdness lurking there and I want to smooth it out. Calendar is essential.
  • fouc11 hours ago
    Suddenly occurs to me that it would be neat to pair a small LLM (3-7B) with an HN dataset
    • codazoda11 hours ago
      Does the SQLite version of this already exist somewhere? The github link on the footer of the page fails for me.
  • dmarwicke17 hours ago
    22gb for mostly text? tried loading the site, it&#x27;s pretty slow. curious how the query performance is with this much data in sqlite
  • layer816 hours ago
    Apparently the comment counts are only the top-level comments?<p>It would be nice for the thread pages to show a comment count.
    • keepamovin10 hours ago
      Yes, because comments in a thread can span shards. It’s just a bit too heavy to add comment counts of an entire thread. So I give a low bound ha ha
  • joshcsimmons15 hours ago
    Link appears broken
    • ra15 hours ago
      confirmed - I wonder what happened?
  • wslh20 hours ago
    Is this updated regularly? 404 on GitHub as the other comment.<p>With all due respect it would be great if there is an official HN public dump available (and not requiring stuff such as BigQuery which is expensive).
    • scsh11 hours ago
      The BQ dataset is only ~17GB and the free tier of BQ lets you query 1TB per month. If you&#x27;re not doing select * on every query you should be able to do a lot with that.
  • KomoD16 hours ago
    How do I download it? That repo is a 404.
  • sirjaz19 hours ago
    This would be awesome as a cross platform app.
  • DenisDolya6 hours ago
    Hahaha, now you can be prepared for the apocalypse when the internet disappears. ;)
  • solarized15 hours ago
    Beautiful !<p>2026 prayer: for all you AI junkies—please don’t pollute H&#x2F;N with your dirty AI gaming.<p>Don’t bot posts, comments, or upvote&#x2F;downvote just to maximize karma. Please.<p>We can’t identify anymore who’s a bot and who’s human. I just want to hang out with real humans here.
  • asdefghyk21 hours ago
    How much space is needed? ...for the data .... Im wondering if it would work on a tablet? ....
    • keepamovin21 hours ago
      ~9GB gzipped.
    • asdefghyk11 hours ago
      FYI I did NOT see the size info in the title. Impossible to edit &#x2F; delete my comment now ........
  • abetusk16 hours ago
    Alas, HN does not belong to us, and the existence of projects like this are subject to the whims of the legal owners of HN.<p>From the terms of use [0]:<p>&quot;&quot;&quot;<p>Commercial Use: Unless otherwise expressly authorized herein or in the Site, you agree not to display, distribute, license, perform, publish, reproduce, duplicate, copy, create derivative works from, modify, sell, resell, exploit, transfer or upload for any commercial purposes, any portion of the Site, use of the Site, or access to the Site. The buying, exchanging, selling and&#x2F;or promotion (commercial or otherwise) of upvotes, comments, submissions, accounts (or any aspect of your account or any other account), karma, and&#x2F;or content is strictly prohibited, constitutes a material breach of these Terms of Use, and could result in legal liability.<p>&quot;&quot;&quot;<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ycombinator.com&#x2F;legal&#x2F;#tou">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ycombinator.com&#x2F;legal&#x2F;#tou</a>
    • tom133713 hours ago
      But is this really a commercial use? There doesn’t seem to be any intention of monetising this so I guess it doesn’t as specify commercial?
  • fao_19 hours ago
    &gt; Community, All the HN belong to you. This is an archive of hacker news that fits in your browser.<p>&gt; 20 years of HN arguments and beauty, can be yours forever. So they&#x27;ll never die. Ever. It&#x27;s the unkillable static archive of HN and it&#x27;s your hands<p>I&#x27;m really sorry to have to ask this, but this really feels like you had an LLM write it?
    • jesprenj18 hours ago
      I doubt it. &quot;hacker news&quot; spelled lowercase? comma after &quot;beauty&quot;? missing &quot;in&quot; after &quot;it&#x27;s&quot;? i doubt an LLM would make such syntax mistakes. it&#x27;s just good writing, that&#x27;s also possible these days.
    • walthamstow19 hours ago
      There&#x27;s a thing in soccer at the moment where a tackle looks fine in realtime but when the video referee shows it to the onpitch referee, they show the impact in slo-mo over and over again and it always looks way worse.<p>I wonder if there&#x27;s something like this going on here. I never thought it was LLM on first read, and I still don&#x27;t, but when you take snippets and point at them it makes me think maybe they are
    • Insanity17 hours ago
      Even if so, would it have mattered? The point is showing off the SQLite DB.<p>But it didn’t read LLM generated IMO.
    • rantingdemon19 hours ago
      Why do you say that?
      • sundarurfriend19 hours ago
        Because anything that even <i>slightly</i> differs from the standard American phrasing of something must be &quot;LLM generated&quot; these days.
        • JavGull19 hours ago
          With the em dashes I see you. But at this point idrc so long as it reads well. Everyone uses spell check…
          • naikrovek18 hours ago
            I add em dashes to everything I write now, solely to throw people who look for them off. Lots of editors add them automatically when you have two sequential dashes between words — a common occurrence, like that one. And this is is Chrome on iOS doing it automatically.<p>Ooh, I used “sequential”, ooh, I used an em dash. ZOMG AI IS COMING FOR US ALL
            • 3eb7988a166313 hours ago
              Anyone demonstrating above a high-school vocabulary&#x2F;reading level is obviously a machine.
            • Barbing18 hours ago
              Ya—in fact, globally replaced on iOS (sent from Safari)<p>Also for reference: “this shortcut can be toggled using the switch labeled &#x27;Smart Punctuation&#x27; in General &gt; Keyboard settings.”
        • deadbabe18 hours ago
          Sometimes I want to write more creatively, but then worry I’ll be accused of being an LLM. So I dumb it down. Remove the colorful language. Conform.
          • ssl-314 hours ago
            Fuck &#x27;em.<p>Always write what you want, however you want to write it. If some reader somewhere decides to be judgemental because of — you know — an em dash or an X&#x2F;Y comparison or a complement or some other thing that they think pins you down as being a bot, then that&#x27;s entirely their own problem. Not yours.<p>They observe the reality that they deserve.
            • deadbabe12 hours ago
              You’re absolutely right. It’s not my problem, it’s <i>their</i> problem.
    • naikrovek18 hours ago
      &gt; I&#x27;m really sorry to have to ask this, but this really feels like you had an LLM write it?<p>Ending a sentence with a question mark doesn’t automatically make your sentence a question. You didn’t ask anything. You stated an opinion and followed it with a question mark.<p>If you intended to ask if the text was written by AI, no, you don’t have to ask that.<p>I am so damn tired of the “that didn’t happen” and the “AI did that” people when there is zero evidence of either being true.<p>These people are the most exhausting people I have ever encountered in my entire life.
      • jacquesm16 hours ago
        You&#x27;re right. Unfortunately they are also more and more often right.