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  • whatamidoingyo4 minutes ago
    This absolutely hurts my soul.<p>Pre-covid, I religiously saved silver (and gold). Just bought some every single paycheck for like 6 years. I had coins, jewelry, bars, silverware, etc.<p>I wished my parents had left me a treasure, but they didn&#x27;t, so I thought I&#x27;d do that for my kids, maybe even leave them a map... But I don&#x27;t have kids, so after being locked in my house during covid, I kind of went a bit crazy.<p>I sold it all and moved states (after travelling quite a bit). My collection was quite massive, and I 100% knew that this day would come, but I didn&#x27;t care, I just needed a new view. I live near the beach now, but... if I just held, I&#x27;d be in a much better place. I hate myself a bit for selling.
    • therobots9270 minutes ago
      You have to try to not think like that. I know because I’ve been in similar places with investments. Just try to focus on gratitude.
  • torcete17 minutes ago
    There&#x27;s an asian AI guy on youtube providing a lot of information about what is going on with the silver right now. Sometimes it seems like he has some insider information, and the whole reasoning seems to come from an expert.<p>It&#x27;s strange because it&#x27;s just not one channel but multiple, and the person behind has kept uploading videos during the entire duration of these holidays. So far, he seems to be quite accurate with his predictions. It&#x27;s been quite informative.<p>If someone is curious, one of many: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;vBIUZGlNkks" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;vBIUZGlNkks</a>
    • chairhairair5 minutes ago
      Do you not realize this is an AI generated person?
      • tsol2 minutes ago
        OP did call him AI. If the underlying research is valid rather than AI generated it can still be valuable. Seems like this guy is using an AI persona essentially to communicate his ideas.
      • msuniverse20262 minutes ago
        What? Did you even read the first sentence he wrote?
  • gethly50 minutes ago
    Silver is limited in supply. The production is actually in deficit for years now, as silver gets used up and there is very little recycling.<p>Oil on the other hand is infinite.
    • n1b0m41 minutes ago
      How is it infinite? Oil forms from ancient organic matter under intense heat and pressure, a process taking millions of years, making it non-renewable on human timescales.
    • blacksmith_tb40 minutes ago
      Sarcasm? 150-200M oz of silver are recycled annually[1]. Oil obviously is mostly burned and won&#x27;t be recoverable, and clearly finite (even if we managed to squeeze out more with fracking etc.)<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.physicalgold.com&#x2F;insights&#x2F;how-much-silver-is-recycled-lost-or-expires-with-use&#x2F;#:~:text=Each%20year%2C%20roughly%20150%E2%80%93200%20million%20ounces%20of%20silver%20are%20recycled%20worldwide" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.physicalgold.com&#x2F;insights&#x2F;how-much-silver-is-rec...</a>
    • Teever16 minutes ago
      Anyone with basic physical literacy knows nothing extractive is infinite.<p>What interest is served by posting this obviously wrong rhetoric?
    • jgalt21241 minutes ago
      You must have had a lot of fun when the &quot;peak oil&quot; crowd was dominating the conversation.
      • stouset36 minutes ago
        Annually, we consume more oil than we find additional reserves of. The difference is something like 12 times less than annual consumption, and the gap is widening.<p>If you’ve found a way to escape that arithmetic, I’m all ears.
        • hippo2230 minutes ago
          The math is pretty simple: the world consumes 36 billion barrels of oil a year and there are like 2 trillion barrels of known reserves. We have enough reserves for 55 years of current consumption. There’s 0 incentive to find more.
          • mothballed12 minutes ago
            There&#x27;s a $60+ &#x2F; barrel incentive to find and extract more.
  • tlhunter50 minutes ago
    The human verification script used on this site caused my phone&#x27;s speakers to wig out.
  • buckle80171 hour ago
    This is the inevitable result of western countries taxing oil.<p>The higher the taxes the lower the price of crude has to be for people to afford it. This means reduced western demand at high prices.<p>However this doesn&#x27;t reduce consumption, it just shifts the consumption to the developing world, where there are minimal if any taxes on consumption.
    • thaumasiotes53 minutes ago
      &gt; However this doesn&#x27;t reduce consumption, it just shifts the consumption to the developing world<p>This is true if production levels aren&#x27;t responsive to prices, but I see no reason that would be the case. Petroleum production levels are known to be quite responsive to upward price movements.
    • mothballed13 minutes ago
      Meanwhile in most states there is no sales tax at all on silver bullion.
    • llmslave21 hour ago
      If only this wasn&#x27;t wholly predictable...
  • karim792 hours ago
    It&#x27;s actually sad that a barrel of oil is still worth anything, but hey, what to do.
    • ux2664782 hours ago
      I too wish we were weaving exotic matter metamaterials out of the aether, but until then hydrocarbons are a miracle from the heavens for their uses. A modern cedar tree.
      • Waterluvian2 hours ago
        I feel they’re more a miracle from the depths of hell. Sunlight is probably the miracle from heaven.
        • kevin_thibedeau1 hour ago
          Petroleum is a stable sunlight storage medium.
        • ux2664781 hour ago
          The sun is but a poor, corrupted pun on starlight. The reflecting pool of crude shimmers with thin-film interference like nebulae on the celestial expanse.
          • LeFantome1 hour ago
            You could argue that the sun was pretty useful, quite the “essential companion” in the Stone Age as well.<p>In fact, it is hard to imagine there would have been enough dead trees to make oil if it were not for the sun.<p>You could argue (pretty soundly) that oil is just a way of consuming the energy in trees which got that energy from the sun. So oil is just a way of extracting ancient solar energy.
          • Waterluvian1 hour ago
            Oil’s potential, left deep in the crust, remains latent. Every mote of sunlight, furiously brought to life by the maelstrom, seeks inexorably for immediate purpose.
    • rjsw2 hours ago
      It is useful as chemical feedstock, burning it is a waste.
      • datahack1 hour ago
        Truly, it’s a miracle for manufacturing. I wish people would understand what a profound waste burning it actually is.
        • mattmaroon55 minutes ago
          They will when supplies eventually dwindle. We were saved from peak oil only by the invention&#x2F;cheapening of fracking followed by the advent of horizontal drilling and unlocking of oil in shales. It&#x27;s unlikely any such windfall will occur again, and even if it does that merely kicks the can down the road.
        • adamwong24656 minutes ago
          All petroleum was created from ancient forests before the evolution of microorganisms that could decompose fiber, so the plant material was simply buried and gradually became petroleum. Above ground, evolution produced organisms which could break down fiber. My point being, that not only is petroleum very useful, it is exceptionally rare on a geological timeline (at least on this planet ). It&#x27;s like a cosmic trust fund, and like most trust fund recipents, we utterly squandered it. We took all this free energy, burned it to power ai slop, and poisoned ourselves in the process. We should have been using that oil to push humans out of the gravity well to Titan where petroleum is abundant. But no, we wanted big cars, cheap electricity and single use utensils.<p>Edit: I was mistaken, confusing coal and petroleum. While petroleum comes from microscopic ocean life, coal forms from the remains of terrestrial plants.
          • AYBABTME41 minutes ago
            Hydrocarbons can be synthesized.<p>edit: let me elaborate.<p>My point is that the chemical complexity (manufacturing uses) can be reproduced, and the energy storage density also can be. So really the gift of hydrocarbons under the ground is more that readily available energy is under our feet to help propel us towards higher levels sources of energy. IMO it’s a stepping stone and that’s effectively how humanity is using it.
          • nerdsniper46 minutes ago
            I think that the forest thing might be true for coal but I believe oil is from algae.
            • adamwong24644 minutes ago
              You are right! Thank you for correcting me
          • adonovan28 minutes ago
            This (amazing) hypothesis has been challenged by new evidence; see for example <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC4780611&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC4780611&#x2F;</a>.
      • jakupovic1 hour ago
        I read this &quot;useful as automotive feedstock&quot; which still makes sense.
    • mothballed17 minutes ago
      I wouldn&#x27;t even know where to sell (or buy) a barrel of oil. It&#x27;s one of the most traded assets yet if someone handed me a barrel, I&#x27;d have no idea what to do with it.
    • 01HNNWZ0MV43FF2 hours ago
      The price should actually trend up as supply is choked by pollution taxes.<p>Every voter who votes for lower gas prices is agreeing that it&#x27;s better to live inside the cruel empire than to build a world without empire
      • pasquinelli1 hour ago
        i didn&#x27;t know gas prices were decided by vote.
  • paulpauper3 hours ago
    time to sell the silverware
    • pfdietz32 minutes ago
      I know, right? Stainless steel is objectively better. Send the silver on to some valuable use, like making PV cells.
    • garyfirestorm2 hours ago
      How about Microsoft Silverlight
      • LeFantome1 hour ago
        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensilver.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opensilver.net&#x2F;</a>
  • gnabgib3 hours ago
    Discussion (21 points, 23 hours ago, 23 comments) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=46396755">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=46396755</a>
  • bookofjoe3 hours ago
    no paywall: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;finance&#x2F;commodities-futures&#x2F;an-ounce-of-silver-is-now-worth-more-than-a-barrel-of-oil-196e149e?st=aHTnKM&amp;reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;finance&#x2F;commodities-futures&#x2F;an-ounce-of-...</a>
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