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  • alexanderameye42 days ago
    For things like my personal blog I don’t really need complex analytics, just page views is fine so I’m using goatcounter which has been really great so far. It has all I need and nothing more.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goatcounter.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goatcounter.com&#x2F;</a>
    • canpan42 days ago
      Another one for personal sites is GoAccess. No DB needed, only log files. It shows nicely; which page was visited, how often, browser statistics etc. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;goaccess.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;goaccess.io&#x2F;</a>
    • loloquwowndueo42 days ago
      Nice! Never heard of goat counter before. What does it give you that log analysis with tools like goaccess or webalizer don’t?
      • wbadart42 days ago
        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goatcounter.com&#x2F;help&#x2F;logfile" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goatcounter.com&#x2F;help&#x2F;logfile</a><p>&gt; - There will be more bot requests.<p>&gt; - Some data won’t be available: screen sizes, page titles.<p>&gt; - It won’t disambiguate to canonical paths from &lt;link rel=&quot;canonical&quot;&gt;; i.e. &#x2F;page and &#x2F;page?x=y will show up as two different paths.
  • drnick142 days ago
    Don&#x27;t use analytics provided by third parties. Some (many?) people blacklist Google Analytics and other tracking tools at the DNS level or through browser extensions. As far as I am concerned, I consider it as malware running on my machine, and will not allow it. Do your tracking server-side if you must.
  • pdyc42 days ago
    i dont get backing up analytics data of 10 years, its bit unusual.What is the utility of it other than research? i have also not seen commercial analytics providers, providing data retention beyond 5 years.
    • angristan42 days ago
      It&#x27;s for my blogs, so it&#x27;s mainly just for fun :) Seeing what&#x27;s read over the years.
  • XCSme39 days ago
    What&#x27;s wrong with the PHP stack? I also use it for my UXWizz platform, which is sort-of a more modern Matomo, and it has worked great so far, very robust and almost no security or upgrading issues (I don&#x27;t use composer though or external packages, I simply have all the libraries directly in my repo).
  • jiangplus42 days ago
    I have been using Plausible for a couple years, it works great and is opensource <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plausible.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plausible.io&#x2F;</a>
  • throw-12-1642 days ago
    Umami is a NextJS app.<p>I’ll pass.
  • trippsydrippsy42 days ago
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  • justsomehnguy42 days ago
    &gt; Finding a modern alternative to Matomo<p>And not a hint on why.<p>&gt; Matomo has barely evolved in terms of UI, and it feels pretty dated now<p>It&#x27;s so sad what my Phillips screwdriver barely evolved in the last 100 years. D&#x27;oh!<p>&gt; It has a few gotchas like this weirdness around updating it in its Docker image.<p>I&#x27;m just clicking the update button in the web UI and waiting a minute.<p>&gt; Umami is a NextJS app with PostgreSQL<p>Aaaaand? It would be somewhat understandable if you ran metrics for the hundreds of sites. But you only have two. So - why? Why is this even matters <i>for you</i>?<p>&gt; no plugins<p>Ah, the famous &#x27;but I don&#x27;t <i>need</i> MMS [despite everyone in the world uses them]&#x27; line of thinking. BTW you could, you know, just not installing any plugins in Matomo - it would be <i>effectively</i> the same result as not having a plugin support in Umami.<p>&gt; reduced feature set<p>Five years ago? Maybe. This is one of the reasons I didn&#x27;t bother with repairing it when my installation quietly died on itself. But looking at the current list it&#x27;s hard to say Umami has &#x27;a reduced feature set&#x27;.<p>&gt; that their Cloud hosted version has an import feature, but it’s not open source<p>And a hard pivot to the &#x27;cloud-first&#x27; was another reason why I decided not to bother with Umami anymore. It was <i>heavily</i> advertised as an open source and <i>open source alternative</i> to the other solutions on the market and now you can&#x27;t even find what you can self-host it on the front page! Of course if don&#x27;t count <i>. Contribute .</i> as a such description. No mention of self-hosting on Pricing at all.<p>&gt; Now, I’m free to say goodbye to Matomo, and save resources.<p>How much resources do you save?<p>Overall I&#x27;m glad what you found a way to preserve the data instead of just throwing it away - and even shared the story and tools to everyone.
    • lukeify42 days ago
      Ironically Phillips screwheads are often considered subpar compared to more recently (relatively) invented screw types.
      • sschueller42 days ago
        Pozidriv is also often misidentified as Philips when it is far superior if one uses the correct matching driver.
      • justsomehnguy42 days ago
        &gt; Phillips screwheads<p>Yes, but the screwdriver itself?<p>The best part here is what if you look at the screenshots of both Matomo and Umami you couldn&#x27;t distinguish them if you are not explicitly told who is where.
    • qingcharles42 days ago
      I use Umami. It definitely appears to have a lot less features than Matomo. I wouldn&#x27;t say that necessarily means it uses less resources, though? An analytics server is probably spending 99.999% of its time just receiving a tiny HTTP event rather than drawing UI unless you are sat refreshing the stats all day.<p>Umami got rooted twice this month because of holes in React, partly because of the enormous complexity of that framework.<p>Just my two cents.