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  • vtomole4 hours ago
    Silicon is not one of the leading modalities for quantum computers, but it has progressed a lot in the past ~2-3 years. Here are a few key advancements that have happened as of late:<p>- Intel can now do 2D which means a Surface code can be run on these devices: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2412.14918" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2412.14918</a><p>- HRL can now do 2D as well: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2502.08861" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2502.08861</a><p>- They are solving the wiring problem: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41565-023-01491-3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41565-023-01491-3</a><p>- Their interconnects are high fidelity: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41586-025-09827-w" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41586-025-09827-w</a>
  • trebligdivad4 hours ago
    The engineering at those scales is pretty magical isn&#x27;t it! Getting a whole bunch of individual atoms exactly where they want them. I wonder what the success rate is - i.e. how many do they build to get one working.
    • krastanov3 hours ago
      Usually they randomly shoot atoms at the substrate and then just search for a spot (among thousands) where it randomly has the configuration they want. Still pretty amazing.
      • trebligdivad3 hours ago
        Can they do that here, they&#x27;ve got quite a few sets of 4&#x2F;5 atoms which they&#x27;ve interconnected, so that&#x27;s a lot to get by shotgunning it. I&#x27;d assumed they were using something like a STM to nudge the atoms around.
        • wrs1 hour ago
          The “precision manufacturing” reference in the paper is to this 2012 paper about an STM placement technique. [0]<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;nnano.2012.21" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;nnano.2012.21</a>
  • giuliomagnifico5 days ago
    Source and “readable” article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thequantuminsider.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;12&#x2F;17&#x2F;sqc-study-shows-silicon-based-quantum-processor-can-scale-without-loss-of-fidelity&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thequantuminsider.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;12&#x2F;17&#x2F;sqc-study-shows-sil...</a>
    • refulgentis5 hours ago
      This is a PR release meant to accompany the scientific work shown in the actual source &#x2F; link. I don’t mean to be argumentative, just, would have taken back the time I spent reading it after reading the Nature version. It’s just “go read Nature” + 3 bullet points + anodyne CXO quotes.
  • dvh4 hours ago
    Can it run Shor&#x27;s?
    • vtomole4 hours ago
      No, and Shor&#x27;s is not a good benchmark for these early quantum computers: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;algassert.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;2500" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;algassert.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;2500</a>
      • sestep3 hours ago
        That&#x27;s a 404; here&#x27;s a working link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;algassert.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;2500" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;algassert.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;2500</a>
        • vtomole3 hours ago
          Oops, updated. Thanks!
      • rowanG0773 hours ago
        I&#x27;m not sure you can really call it &quot;early days&quot; anymore. The first quantum computer was in 1998. That&#x27;s 27 years ago.
        • vtomole2 hours ago
          &quot;early days&quot; means that the 1998 computer didn&#x27;t have qubits that were below the error correction threshold. Now we have hundreds of qubits below threshold. We&#x27;ll need millions of qubits like these for quantum computing to be useful. If that take decades, this is the &quot;early days&quot; relatively.<p>It&#x27;s not only early days in hardware, it&#x27;s early days in practical applications as well: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2511.09124" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2511.09124</a>
          • sgt1017 minutes ago
            can you give a bit more information on 100&#x27;s of qubits below threshold? I wasn&#x27;t aware of 100&#x27;s...
          • rowanG0772 hours ago
            I admit it&#x27;s early days in practical application. But in hardware definitely not.
            • vtomole1 hour ago
              Depends on what we mean by &quot;early days on hardware&quot;.<p>If we mean &quot;we&#x27;ve have been working on this for almost 3 decades. That&#x27;s a very long time to be working on something!&quot;. I agree.<p>If we mean &quot;We just now only have a few logical qubits that outperform their physical counterparts and we&#x27;ll need thousands of these logical qubits to run anything useful&quot; then we are still in the early days.
    • Ellipsis7534 hours ago
      It should be able to factor 15.
      • YesThatTom24 hours ago
        So can a 10 year old. The breakthrough I’m waiting for is factoring something I cant do in my head.
        • thrance2 hours ago
          And so can a dog: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eprint.iacr.org&#x2F;2025&#x2F;1237.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eprint.iacr.org&#x2F;2025&#x2F;1237.pdf</a>
        • aipatselarom1 hour ago
          How much money or time do they owe you, though?
      • iwontberude3 hours ago
        But it can’t because the error rate is still too high even for the most trivial examples
  • bobse2 hours ago
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  • iwontberude3 hours ago
    Ahh yes another quantum processor that creates noise.
  • colesantiago4 hours ago
    Quantum Computing is a scam.<p>I have not seen any progress or breakthroughs in the QC field at all that are significant.<p>If the only goal for QC is to try to run Shor&#x27;s algorithm or to &quot;try to break the bitcoin blockchain&quot; then it is worse than useless.
    • throwaway_727447 minutes ago
      It’s not, but I can understand how it might look that way to a tech industry professional used to dealing with scams (indeed, there are lots of scam-adjacent startups with quantum-flavored branding). Real science and engineering are just very difficult and take a long time. You can go to the arXiv, read the papers, and see the progress and breakthroughs that are made every year. But scientists are relatively honest, so even their breakthroughs are incremental.
      • throwaway_727413 minutes ago
        Maybe I should clarify that this isn&#x27;t meant in a combative way.<p>I think there&#x27;s a way that people talk past each other, because they mean different things by the same words, because they ultimately have different cultures and values.<p>There&#x27;s one kind of person (let&#x27;s call them &quot;technologists,&quot; but I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s a better word) who feels deeply and intuitively that the point of a technology is to Create Shareholder Value. There&#x27;s another kind (let&#x27;s call them &quot;scientists&quot;) who feels deeply and intuitively that the point of a technology is to Evince That We Have Known The Mind Of God. I think that these two kinds of people have a hard time understanding one another. Sometimes they don&#x27;t realize, as strange as it sounds, that the other exists.<p>There are many scientists who have been working on problems falling loosely under the umbrella of &quot;quantum computing&quot; for a few decades now. Most of them are not literally Building A Quantum Computer, or even trying to. Not exactly. For this reason it might be better to call the field &quot;things you can do with coherent control of isolated quantum systems&quot; than &quot;quantum computing.&quot; There are many strange and wonderful things that you can see when you have good coherent control of isolated quantum systems. The scientists are largely interested in seeing those things, in order to Evince That We Have Known The Mind Of God. One sort of strange and wonderful thing, way down the line, is maybe factoring big numbers? The scientists honestly call that a &quot;goal,&quot; because it would be strange and wonderful indeed. But it&#x27;s not really <i>the</i> goal. The scientists don&#x27;t really care about it for its own sake, and certainly not for the sake of Creating Shareholder Value. It&#x27;s just one thing that would Evince That We Have Known The Mind Of God.<p>Incidentally, over those last couple of decades, we&#x27;ve gotten <i>way</i> better at coherent control of isolated quantum systems, and have, in many ways, succeeded at Evincing That We Have Known The Mind Of God again and again. We have made, and continue to make, amazing progress. One day we probably will factor large numbers. But that&#x27;s not really the goal for the scientists.<p>On the other hand, there are &quot;technologists&quot; who hear about the goal of factoring large numbers, take this to be, in some sense, &quot;the point&quot; (that is, a proxy for Creating Shareholder Value), and expect it to happen in short order. They raise lots of money and promise a payout. They might act in very &quot;commercial&quot; ways, telling people what things are going to happen when, using an idiosyncratic, personal definition of truth. This is understood and expected in commercial situations. They and their creditors may be disappointed.<p>The trouble is that it&#x27;s hard for people on the outside to tell the difference between the scientists and the technologists! This makes things confusing. On some level, this is a failure of science communication: laypeople hear about breakthroughs (from scientists), then don&#x27;t see the promises of technologists immediately fulfilled, they get confused, and they start to think the scientists are lying. But they&#x27;re not! They&#x27;re different people.<p>Another thing that laypeople don&#x27;t really know is that there <i>are</i> commercially-useful and near-commercially-useful technologies using coherent control of isolated quantum systems. They&#x27;ve come out of the same research program, but aren&#x27;t strictly &quot;quantum computing.&quot; I don&#x27;t know why it&#x27;s not more widely known that quantum sensors made out of qubits (usually a different kind of qubit than the kind used for computing applications!) are on the market today, and beat other sensors along a variety of axes.<p>This might sound like goalpost-moving, but I promise you it&#x27;s not. If it sounds like goalpost-moving, it&#x27;s because there are two different relevant groups of people you hadn&#x27;t previously resolved!
    • vtomole4 hours ago
      QC progress happens super-exponentially: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=46383233">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=46383233</a>
      • colesantiago3 hours ago
        Graphs aren&#x27;t telling me anything.<p>What are the real world use cases <i>now, today</i>? The only thing I see in the QC space, are QC stocks and funding paying for the employment of scientific experimentation, which isn&#x27;t a real world application.<p>Do I have to wait 15 to 30 years for a series of real world changing breakthroughs that I can already do on a NVIDIA GPU card?<p>That doesn&#x27;t exponential at all, in fact that sounds very very bearish.
        • kevlened3 hours ago
          &gt; The only thing I see in the QC space, are QC stocks and funding paying for the employment of scientific experimentation<p>Then invest accordingly, and later reinvest your winnings in a different direction.
        • vtomole3 hours ago
          The graphs aren&#x27;t telling you that QC hardware is not improving at a super-exponential pace?<p>There are no real world use cases today. The hardware is not advanced enough yet, but it&#x27;s improving exponentially.
          • iinnPP3 hours ago
            I think the point being made is that the graphs don&#x27;t show real world applications progress. Being 99.9999999% or 0.000001% of the way to a useful application could be argued as no progress given the stated metric. Is there a guarantee that these things can and will work given enough time?
            • vtomole3 hours ago
              &gt; Is there a guarantee that these things can and will work given enough time?<p>Quantum theory predicts that they will work given enough time. If they don&#x27;t work, there is something about physics that we are missing.
              • zarzavat1 hour ago
                Quantum theory says that quantum computers are mathematically plausible. It doesn&#x27;t say anything about whether it&#x27;s possible to construct a quantum computer in the real world of a given configuration. It&#x27;s entirely possible that there&#x27;s a physical limit that makes useful quantum computers impossible to construct.
                • vtomole1 hour ago
                  Quantum theory says that quantum computers are physically plausible. Quantum theory lies in the realm of physics, not mathematics. As a physical theory, it makes predictions about what is plausible in the real world. One of those predictions is that it&#x27;s possible to build a large-scale fault tolerant quantum computer.<p>The way to test out this theory is to try out an experiment to see if this is so. If this experiment fails, we&#x27;ll have to figure out why theory predicted it but the experiment didn&#x27;t deliver.
              • pohl2 hours ago
                Sounds like a pursuit where we win either way
                • stocksinsmocks1 hour ago
                  Publishing findings that amount to an admission that you and others spent a fortune studying a dead end is career suicide and guarantees your excommunication from the realm of study and polite society. If a popular theory is wrong, some unlucky martyr must first introduce incontrovertible proof and then humanity must wait for the entire generation of practitioners whose careers are built on it to die.
                  • vtomole3 minutes ago
                    Quantum theory is so unlikely to be wrong that if large-scale fault tolerant quantum computers could not be built, the effort to try to build them will not be a dead end, but instead a revolution in physics.
                • ziofill1 hour ago
                  Unless the overall cost is too high, but yes it&#x27;s definitely worth pursuing as far as we currently know.