8 comments

  • vintagedave48 days ago
    Who knew Turbo Vision was still being used — much less updated, Unicode, cross platform, 24-bit color?<p>I’ve been struggling around issues in .Net Terminal.GUI v2 recently and it really made me miss the OG solid terminal UI library. Silly thing is back when this was a thing I didn’t even use it at the time.<p>I found this repo linked: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;magiblot&#x2F;tvision" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;magiblot&#x2F;tvision</a>
    • badsectoracula48 days ago
      FWIW Free Vision that comes with Free Pascal is also updated and is also based on the original Turbo Vision that Borland released under public domain back in the 90s. Free Vision is used for the text-mode IDE that comes with Free Pascal and is ported to almost much every supported platform.
      • fuzztester48 days ago
        And the Free Pascal TUI IDE is lightning fast.
    • michaelsbradley48 days ago
      Also check out Final Cut<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;gansm&#x2F;finalcut" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;gansm&#x2F;finalcut</a><p>&gt; FINAL CUT is a powerful and lightweight C++ library for creating terminal-based applications with numerous text-based widgets.
      • mixmastamyk48 days ago
        Wow, even better looking than TV, using the full power of Unicode and a custom font. Always new it was possible but haven’t seen it done yet.<p>Reminds me a bit of the later versions of the old Norton DOS utils.
      • Squarex48 days ago
        it&#x27;s cool, but the name sucks when there is final cut pro
        • michaelsbradley48 days ago
          Well, as the author says in the FAQ, he&#x27;s been using the name Final Cut since 1991, whereas the famous video editing software appeared in 1999. Now, given how well-known the latter became, a name change would certainly be reasonable if he wanted to avoid confusion, improve find-ability in web search, etc. But, I get the impression that&#x27;s not among his priorities, and it&#x27;s his project, so...
    • danparsonson48 days ago
      Yeah what a joyful blast from the past! I love that whole aesthetic; the best of the DOS days IMO.
    • actionfromafar48 days ago
      Terminal.GUI v2 is very promising and a delight. But documentation was not 100% there last I used it this summer.<p>There was always this nagging doubt - is it buggy or don&#x27;t I understand how to use it? In the end, I finished my little internal tool and was happy with it. Would try again.
      • vintagedave47 days ago
        I had exactly the same problem. I ended up getting a copy of its source and pointing Claude at it, which insisted there were bugs - but, its fixes were not reliable, and I wasn&#x27;t even sure if its assessments were correct, or the docs were wrong or out of date, or I was simply misusing it and misleading the AI through those expectations.<p>The docs point so strongly at using v2 instead of v1, but I just don&#x27;t get the sense it&#x27;s reliable, and I feel &#x27;stuck&#x27; for a good Terminal UI library for .Net now.
        • actionfromafar47 days ago
          I don&#x27;t think there is a perfect fit, unfortunately. The best one can do is probably call out to one of the native code libraries, but that has an impractical distribution story in .Net for many use cases.
    • esafak48 days ago
      The best of DOS, such as it was.
  • smusamashah48 days ago
    This immediately looked like vtm <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;directvt&#x2F;vtm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;directvt&#x2F;vtm</a><p>I don&#x27;t know much about terminals but VTM was fun to play around. You could `ssh vtm@netxs.online` (now dead URL) and play around with dragable windows.
  • outofpaper48 days ago
    How does usage compare to the old TWIN? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;cosmos72&#x2F;twin" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;cosmos72&#x2F;twin</a>
  • kazinator48 days ago
    screen and tmux are also terminal emulators that run in the terminal.
  • jrm448 days ago
    &quot;Yo dawg..&quot;<p>Or is that finally a lost to time meme? :)
  • pjmlp47 days ago
    Turbo Vision as introduced in Turbo Pascal 6 (C++ version came later), was a great way to learn OOP on MS-DOS, the other being Clipper 5.<p>Besides a nice OOP architecture, collections, iteration with callbacks, serialization, in a nice AOT compiled language with blazing compile times.<p>Kind of tragic what we could get in 1992, in 640 KB, in a single tasking operating systems, and how bad so many &quot;modern&quot; frameworks happen to be by comparison, regarding the whole development experience.
  • raphinou48 days ago
    Are there any bindings for other languages than cpp?
  • gazabbqparty48 days ago
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