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  • Really neat project, see my sister comment (on analogue pagers still in service).<p>&gt;I&#x27;d love to hear your thoughts on the IP-to-Phone-Number mapping logic (it&#x27;s purely visual, but I&#x27;m really into it).<p>Personally, this seems like a really bad idea. The similarity to <i>actual phone numbers</i> might lead to confusion by non-technical <i>high-trust contactors</i>. Worse (e.g.) if the IP were 91.1x.x.x then this could lead to further confusion &amp;&#x2F;or erroneous 9-1-1 misdials (by inept contactors).<p>It&#x27;s a UDP packet, ought it not be in IP-format?<p>&gt;where you only want interruptions from a high-trust circle<p>I don&#x27;t even have a phone contact number anymore. After you page me, I&#x27;ll VoIP you back from an outbound-only.<p>But overall I LOVE that you have attempted this; only real problem for your average installer&#x2F;recipient is that most home ISPs are firewalled (so a UDP7777 inbound isn&#x27;t possible), but this <i>obviously</i> isn&#x27;t for even your average technical installer.<p>----<p>Just leave me alone, world&#x2F;SPAMmers!<p>How do you prevent malicious actors from invading your 7777UDPs?
    • keepamovin16 hours ago
      For anti-spam, the general use case is use of Tailscale&#x2F;Zerotier where you are in control of your network. If you are on public internet and have 7777 open then you can use the Squelch filter under the CFG page. It drops every message that doesn&#x27;t start with your secret::
      • robertlagrant54 minutes ago
        &gt; It drops every message that doesn&#x27;t start with your secret::<p>Depending on how internet-proof you want to make this, I wonder if it might be better to sign with a secret and attach the signature to the message instead of directly sending the secret.
  • &gt;I found myself missing 1990s pagers.<p>I still use one which gets one-way service from &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pagersdirect.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pagersdirect.net&#x2F;</a>&gt; (~$14&#x2F;mo, with phone number and pager included). Most US cities, large and small, still have active infrastructure. I live in a city with a few hundred thousand people, great coverage.<p>This has replaced my mobile phone, which I no longer carry. It also prevents spammers from messaging... because the systems don&#x27;t understand this antiquated technology [1].<p>For those interested, Pagers Direct has an email-to-pager option (I don&#x27;t use it, phone digits only <i>please caller</i>, after the beep). It also has two-way pagers, which I have no experience with.<p>One caution: for one-way pagers, if you&#x27;re out of range[0] when somebody sends you text, you will never get the message (no handshake&#x2F;confirmation).<p>[0] does not use traditional cellular infrastructure<p>[1] TBH: most humans don&#x27;t either, unless you explain how <i>to page</i> somebody: <i>key in your callback#&#x2F;code</i> after the beep [no audio&#x2F;text]<p>[•] I don&#x27;t work for the above-linked paging service, <i>I&#x27;m just a very happy customer</i>.
    • keepamovin1 day ago
      That is <i>so</i> cool. I really want to get one (or make a hardware company that builds simple, DIY kits for them).
      • With a prepaid annual subscription, they sent me a pager <i>for FREE</i>.<p>&gt;builds simple, DIY kits for them<p>So I <i>highly doubt</i> this would be profitable for you.<p>----<p>As far as the paging infrastructure is concerned, <i>all the messages are mass-sent, in an un-encrypted analogue broadcast</i>. EVERY device receives EVERY page, as long as within range. It is the pager itself which chooses to <i>only display &quot;your&quot; message(s)</i>.<p>Your DIY hardware could lead you into some interesting discoveries of your local area&#x27;s messaging&#x2F;users.
        • mbirth17 hours ago
          Yep, 20-odd years ago, I had modified a radio scanner and added a discrete output. Then used Poc32 to decode pager messages from the scanner via the PC’s sound card.<p>Got lots of server health messages and requests to call people back. And some more personal messages, too.
  • blargwill1 day ago
    Woah! The world really works in mysterious ways. I&#x27;ve found myself thinking in this space a lot recently. I&#x27;ve been working on a pager that takes the notifications from my phone and relays only the ones I want to see. I use LTE-M&#x2F;NB-IOT to get connectivity anywhere and the device works and I&#x27;m looking to find a way to get a pcd&#x2F;case made..<p>Landing page (doesn&#x27;t link to anything): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fob.launchbowl.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fob.launchbowl.com&#x2F;</a><p>A little word dump of thoughts at the start of the journey: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;launchbowl.com&#x2F;e_ink_pager" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;launchbowl.com&#x2F;e_ink_pager</a><p>Your project seems really cool and allows you to bring your own hardware. Out of curiosity, have you blocked all notifications on your phone? Would this be run on your computer? Would you ever move in the direction of a physical device?
    • wkat42421 day ago
      I&#x27;d love to get a real pager again too. But not LTE-M based because that&#x27;s still a two way system so I can be traced.<p>I just have a pretty strong desire to get my anonymity back when I want it. Not because I need it but just to feel free again.
      • US: &lt;<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pagersdirect.net" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pagersdirect.net</a>&gt;<p>I have and use one, partially for the reasons you list above.<p>[•] Not a representative of the company, just <i>a very happy customer</i>.
        • wkat424218 hours ago
          I&#x27;m in Spain, unfortunately there&#x27;s apparently not s single pager network remaining :( Some other EU countries still have them but not here.<p>Thanks for the tip though!
    • keepamovin1 day ago
      Yes! I really want a physical device for things like this. It&#x27;s cool we are both thinking about it: <i>independent invention.</i> That is a sick website. Love the design!
  • Western054 minutes ago
    finger is better (and best is reticulum)<p>or <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shop.exploitee.rs&#x2F;shop&#x2F;p&#x2F;the-hacker-pager" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shop.exploitee.rs&#x2F;shop&#x2F;p&#x2F;the-hacker-pager</a>
  • swah39 minutes ago
    I will send my thoughts but at which number?
  • andai1 day ago
    Do you have this running on some kind of pager shaped device? What do you use it for?
  • aiiotnoodle1 day ago
    Really cool. I like the flashing red.
    • keepamovin1 day ago
      Thanks. I thought I should not just use a sound in case people are deaf or don&#x27;t have volume on.
  • koakuma-chan1 day ago
    What is &quot;UDP-7777&quot;? Is it some kind of software? What does it do exactly?
    • leetbulb15 minutes ago
      You should check out the website.
  • mzajc1 day ago
    Is the source available? What is presented is a machine-generated website with very little meaningful information and mystery binaries for three platforms.<p>PS: The &quot;SHA256 CHECKSUMS VERIFIED.&quot; is static. No hash check is performed, and as far as I can see the website doesn&#x27;t have a list of hashes to check.
    • keepamovin14 hours ago
      I normally work on larger projects (BrowserBox, dn), and now believe in new release methods which is why the source is closed.<p>Your radar was okay: site is machine-generated by build workflow which pushes the binaries. The &quot;Verified&quot; label reflects internal CI attestation, but without public hashes? Might cause concern. Did not consider, tho based on your comment I&#x27;ve now replaced with &quot;Digitally Signed and Notarized&quot;.<p>So reflects more accurately how the binaries are always digitally signed and notarized (Apple Developer ID + Microsoft Authenticode) with our company certs. SOP for my releases. The verification is the cryptographic signature checked by your OS kernel, not just a text file.<p>I actually like this presentation better now!
    • Thanks for this caution &#x2F; opsec.<p>----<p>Public WhoIS registrant:<p>Chris [redacted]<p>The Dosyago Corporation<p>Beaverton, Oregon<p>----<p>OP has ~2 year old &#x2F;hn&#x2F; account, with ~11k karma<p>----<p>I have made no further investigations, but obviously haven&#x27;t installed this myself (as I have an IRL pager that solves similar issues to OP&#x27;s).
      • keepamovin14 hours ago
        There&#x27;s also an operator manual if you&#x27;re looking for more info: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.udp7777.com&#x2F;usage.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.udp7777.com&#x2F;usage.html</a>
    • war-is-peace1 day ago
      &gt; The Protocol<p>&gt; The system is intentionally raw. No headers, no JSON, no XML.<p>&gt; Transport: UDP Port 7777<p>&gt; Encoding: UTF-8 Plain Text<p>&gt; Format: [SECRET::]MESSAGE<p>you dont get it, the protocol is flawless