There is nothing special about the Troubled Engineer's setup. It's mostly a matter of using open platforms. With Firefox on the desktop and Fennec on Android (Graphene), you get full uBlock Origin support and therefore never see any ads anywhere, even on Youtube. On Android, there is also NewPipe that offers "free Youtube Premium" (play in the background and download).<p>I also use DNS based filtering since I run my own Unbound instance, but it isn't really necessary with the above setup. It may be useful if you must absolutely have a smart TV or other such appliances, but considering that they have cameras and microphones, I will never connect such a device to the Internet anyway.
Same. Firefox works well on mobile and allows uBlock Origin (in my experience NewPipe is fragile).
How are you not seeing any ads with that setup? I just read your comment and saw multiple ads!
Just to throw one on the pile <a href="https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube</a> for android based TV media box is great.
Android FF allows background play in desktop mode.
On android there's also Louis Rosman's company's Grayjay. Ad blocking, syncing between devices without Google, SponsorBlock to skip sponsored segments, and many more: <a href="https://grayjay.app/" rel="nofollow">https://grayjay.app/</a>
How about ads inside apps on android? I used to have AdGuard dns configured but somehow was still seeing ads in some games. I guess they were self hosting ads or had the DNS server hard coded in the app…
I use brave in android but I have used firefox on android too, firefox actually still supports old devices which is nice<p>Heck I have ran modern firefox on tinycore on my 32 bit 1 gig ram mini dell laptop lol
I use close to that setup, but with the (now defunct) Kiwi Browser with Magnolia's BPC, FBP for Facebook and uBlock Origin. Works pretty well.
"There is nothing special about the Troubled Engineer's setup."<p>That's good<p>"It's mostly a matter of using open platforms. With Firefox on the desktop and Fennec on Android (Graphene), you get full uBlock Origin support and therefore never see any ads anywhere, even on Youtube."<p>The "smartphone" is certainly not an "open platform"<p>For many years, including before Graphene even existed, if trying to use Firefox for Android without Graphene, either zero or only a small subset of ("curated") extensions were "supported" when not "logged in"<p>One could get "support" for all extensions by using Nightly. No need to "log in"<p>The situation may have changed recently but allowing it to persist for so many years like that is a good reminder of Mozilla's priorities and allegiances<p>Not to mention the ridiculous shibboleth required to change these settings away from the privacy-hostile defaults<p>"It may be useful if you must absolutely have a smart TV or other such appliances, but considering that they have cameras and microphones, I will never connect such a device to the Internet anyway."<p>Sounds intriguing. Any good articles on smart TVs with cameras or "other such appliances" with microphones conducting surveillance on purchasers<p>If there really are such TVs and appliances, then it makes sense to exercise control over whether they can connect to the internet and if so, what DNS data they can use<p>This cannot be done with uBlock Origin or NewPipe. Something else is needed, e.g., gateway/router firewall, DNS, forward proxy, etc.<p>The companies that distribute so-called "modern" web browsers are hyperfocused on data collection (Mozilla's telemetry alone is insane), surveillance and ad services as a core "business model". The software has been designed to access cameras and microphones. Mozilla receives millions of US dollars in payment from Google for user search data. The terms of this agreement selling users out are not public<p>The browser vendor can decide to stop "supporting" extensions such as "uBlock Origin" at any time, as we have seen with Google's Chrome, a project started by former Mozilla employees. The "smartphone" OS vendor can decide to stop allowing "apps" such as "NewPipe" at any time. As it happens the browser vendor, the OS vendor and the ad services vendor are all the same company. Mozilla is its business partner, Chrome was started by former Mozilla employees<p>1. It is reasonable to use what works until it doesn't, and to have alternatives when something stops working<p>I use multiple layers of defence against ads, call it an ad avoidance "stack" if that term appeals to you. uMatrix and uBlock Origin are only one layer and only work with popular browsers. Port forwarding on Android is another layer. DNS is another layer. Forward proxy is another layer. Gateway firewall is another layer. I control DNS for reasons other than ads but DNS is remarkably effective at preventing ads and tracking<p>In the long run, I would bet that DNS-based methods of avoiding data collection, surveillance and ads will remain viable the longest. DNS is older than the web, "smartphone apps" and the practice of using the web or "app stores" as data collection, surveillance and ad delivery platforms<p>This practice is enabled by and dependent on "popular web browsers" like Firefox and mobile OS like Android, controlled by corporations whose "business model" is support for onllne advertising, e.g., Mozilla Corporation sending search query data to Google LLC, who also collects data for advertising purposes via Android, in return for for millions of US dollars. This makes using Firefox or an Android fork a strange choice as a method for avoiding advertising.^1 These are the software projects, effectively controlled by trillion dollar corporations focused on data collection, surveillance and ad services, through which ads are delivered. These projects are a vehicle for online adverttising. DNS software projects,^2 at least the "good" ones, are not<p>2. NB. I'm not thinking of dnsmasq/PiHole. I'm not suggesting it's "bad
I am so reliant on YouTube Premium that I forget people even see ads on there. I watch an awful lot of long form interviews, lectures, podcasts -- most downloaded for offline. It's the easiest $8/month of all my subscriptions.
I’m the opposite. I’ve almost entirely given up on YouTube because I know that, even if I pay, I’m subjected to the consequences of ads.<p>Content creators have paid sections in the video itself, the format optimises grabbing your attention, some legitimate-presenting channels are just real state for product placement...<p>You can’t win in that platform.
A recent feature for paid subscribers is the ability to skip frequently skipped sections which de facto skips in-video ads.
If you have a VPN, pretend you're in Moldova to enjoy ad-free, free YouTube.
SponsorBlock and DeArrow are your friends
You can't completely escape advertising while still participating in modern society but there's still a huge difference between free and premium YouTube in this regard.<p>Yes, creators have paid sections but they are skippable (and note YouTube helps you skip with a little white dot in the UI[1]) and creators have a strong incentive to protect their credibility. They have an ongoing "relationship" with their viewer. Not so for the random companies that get to spam you with unskippable adverts for crypto scams or fat-free yoghurt in the freezer version.<p>[1]They don't like sponsored segments as they don't get a cut most of the time. They do have a programme for arranging sponsored segments via the platform, in which case they _do_ get a cut. I'm not sure if they still offer the little skip-helper dot in that case... Anyone know?
> creators have a strong incentive to protect their credibility.<p>This comment is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends
> YouTube helps you skip with a little white dot in the UI[1])<p>Is that a premium feature? How does it look? I don't remember ever seeing it (that said, SponsorBlock solves this).<p>> and creators have a strong incentive to protect their credibility.<p>I haven't seen this play out very much to be honest.
> > and creators have a strong incentive to protect their credibility.<p>> I haven't seen this play out very much to be honest.<p>"Credibility" means "relative to the interests of their audience". Faux News has a completely different, almost inverse metric for "credibility" with their "Aliuns made the pirramids!" fanbase. CNN follows a more strict "if it bleeds it leads" policy to keep their audience believing them.
There's a huge difference indeed — uBlock + SponsorBlock are superior. Not only do I not see any ads at all—including self-promotions of the video creators and their sponsorship segments—I also get to skip content-free intermissions, tangents, etc. and jump straight to the highlight of the video.
SponsorBlock. I don’t see in video ads, not self ads and no sponsoring.
Giving up YouTube and any other video content online would be the best life hack you can make in 2026.
<i>Family memberships are not available for G Suite accounts. Sign in with a personal Google account or buy an individual membership to continue.</i><p>All I wanted years ago was an email address with my vanity domain. Had I only known I was shunting my whole family into a Bizarro Elgoog world...
Firefox + uBlock Origin + Sponsor Block (includes "skip to highlight feature) + 'Improve youtube!' = no ads, no clickbait thumbnails, and no friction plus tons of optimizations.<p>iOS Safari + uBlock Origin + Vinagre extension = no ads, free background play.
I pay for YouTube Premium and I still use ReVanced on mobile.<p>Being able to remove Shorts from the app and to revert Alphabet's many incoherent design decisions makes the whole thing usable.
Yeh, for all Google's faults in this arena, YouTube Premium is such a good buy. I consume so much YouTube I think it would be unethical for me not to pay.<p>(I still use uBlock of course)
Removing ads and downloading videos are both available for free.
YouTube Premium is a joke.<p>Mass surveillance is one of the biggest threat to society that has come out of our industry, and is the biggest objection that many people have against modern adtech.<p>So how does YouTube Premium address this? Well, first you login to Google and let them associate your real name to everything you do online, not just what you do on YouTube. Then, you give them your credit card info, home address, and phone number because why not? On top of that, you get to foot the bill for all of this.<p>Uh, I'll continue to stay out of this.
I used to be have a premium family suscription, canceled it the moment google increased the price by 30%, I considered such a jump unfair compared to the rest of the economy where salaries are hardly getting adjusted to the inflation.
Wait a minute, why is mine $13.99 a month?<p>But agree, totally worth it if you at all value your time.
If you don't care about music or background play, and all you want is to eliminate ads, YouTube Premium Lite is $8/month.<p><a href="https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/15968883" rel="nofollow">https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/15968883</a>
Interesting - hadn't heard of this option before. But I see that "Premium Lite" is not available in NZ... <a href="https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6307365?sjid=9275264344830860962-NC#zippy=%2Cpremium-lite-memberships-available-locations" rel="nofollow">https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6307365?sjid=92752...</a>
I still can't believe that they paywalled the ability for the video to keep playing when the screen is turned off.<p>Probably a business decision that's made them a lot of money, well done.<p>Thank goodness for ReVanced.
>I still can't believe that they paywalled the ability for the video to keep playing when the screen is turned off.<p>That's why I will never pay, no matter how much people glaze yt premium. I distinctly remember the day they took that simple feature away. uBlock and Vanced work fine, and it's also not hard to download to my media server for offline<p>I don't want to reward a company for shitty practices. What are they even doing at youtube besides changing the UI every 3 months and stuffing AI where it isn't wanted/needed.<p>At the bare minimum they need to enable the ability to blacklist entire channels, like I can easily do on my home setup. And ban AI videos without a label. Then they can have my $8
It's only for music where background play isn't supported for free.
Wasn't aware of this option... I'd actually switched to YT Music because the family plan for YT premium is/was pretty good. Nice to know I can bring it down in the future.
> Wait a minute, why is mine $13.99 a month?<p>Only the earliest google music people are still grandfathered in at the insanely low rate. The rest of us have been "upgraded" to at least $14/mo.
Damn, I just looked up how long I have been paying using <a href="https://payments.google.com/" rel="nofollow">https://payments.google.com/</a> . Looks like I've been paying for youtube music since October 2014. These grandfathered people must be really really early. :]
They also have a family plan that costs a bit more I think.
I've been on the family plan for a long while... was before they redid Google Music and YT Music, but it included YT ad free and Google Music, so I did that and dropped Spotify around a decade ago. I watch so much YT content, it's been worth it to keep... Though I'm glad that Rumble is there and seeing some improvements in UX, still not nearly as good as YT, but getting better.<p>Mostly watch via Android TV (NVidia Shield TV).
I'm the same as you: long form and essays. I use freetube for Linux and Tubular for android, so no ads at all. I follow only youtubers who have a patreon and I support all of them (10 or so and one via kofi).
So you just manually skip the sponsor segments that most popular creators include in their videos or what?
I'm using Firefox + uBlock Origin, and this combo blocks ads perfectly for me. Anyone else using the same setup?
Yes, with Sponsorblock to skip in-video ads.
I use this combination on my personal laptop, but on my work machine I need to use Edge browser. For some reason, Edge still supports the uBlock Origin extension, so I get to avoid ads on my work laptop too.
> For some reason, Edge still supports the uBlock Origin extension<p>They still accept updates to existing Manifest V2 extensions [1].<p>[1] <a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/extensions/developer-guide/manifest-v3" rel="nofollow">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/extensions/...</a>
I use Firefox with uBlock Origin for pretty much everything, but I still occasionally use Chrome, now with uBlock Origin Lite.<p>I can't say I'm noticing any ads on Chrome, the lite ad blocker seems just as effective.
+ ghostery + pihole.<p>I like his suggestion of VPN via cloud. I might set up something with wireguard or tailscale for that.<p>I don't really use youtube, but my family does, so If anyone knows a way to get a better ui experience as a google tv app I'd be keen to hear it?
Ghostery has a history of slightly problematic behaviour if you’re using it for privacy purposes.
>+ ghostery + pihole.<p>Both are superfluous if you have ublock, and pihole doesn't do anything for "native" ads like on twitch or youtube. The only benefit is that it blocks ads in apps that use third party ad SDKs.
The article links to iSponsorBlockTV: <a href="https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV</a><p>This doesn't change the UI as such, but it auto-mutes ads, and auto-skips once the skip option is available. It's a bit of a funny thing to setup, but it works great once setup.
sideload SmartTube. I use it along with youtube premium to get a stellar experience.
what does ghostery do for you on top of ublock origin?
You probably should use AdNausem instead. It uses same uBlock under the hood, but it clicks all the ads.
Site owners make money and advertisers loose them. Additionally, if enough of us switch from uBlock to AdNausem (which are nearly identical), it would be the end of surveillances capitalism. It just wouldn't be profitable anymore.
Perfect combo, where it can be used.
Look into Sponsor Block as well.
Don't forget Consent-O-Matic if you live in the EU+UK, to auto-reject all cookie and GDPR forms.
GDPR requires opt-in consent, so simply not displaying the cookie notice is functionally equivalent to rejecting permission.
We need it everywhere, we get those gdpr forms because sites don't differentiate at all.
My additional recommendations:<p>1. You don't need a separate browser extension for blocking cookie notices, Ublock Origin can do that just fine. You just need to enable the cookie notice filters in the settings (they are disabled by default).<p>2. AdAway on Android allows network-level blocking without resorting to a VPN (it's based on /etc/hosts). Though it does require root.
But Consent-O-Matic doesn't just block cookie notices, it clicks on the appropriate buttons to deny them first for the major kinds of cookie dialogs.
I refuse to engage with them on principle and will not signal denial or acceptance, because doing so would legitimise this farcical, dilettante excuse for a government "solution".
Isn't the point of the notices that you have to explicitly agree to them for the site to be allowed to track you? Wouldn't never accepting be equivalent to rejecting?
The problem with ad blocker apps on Android is that they always require a either a VPN, in which cases my banking apps don't work, or root, which is getting harder and harder to get and probably also breaks my banking apps.<p>However, I have found that using NextDNS as a private DNS server works and doesn't cause any problems like this.
I'm still having good results with root, Magisk, and Play Integrity Fix. That does involve some knowledge and effort though, so what I point others to is Mullvad DNS, which is free: <a href="https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls" rel="nofollow">https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls</a><p>Don't forget to give apps that fuck with you in the name of security 1-star reviews!
> You just need to enable the cookie notice filters in the settings<p>I didn't know it existed. FWIW, it's under Settings > Filter lists > Cookie notices.
I prefer poisoning my ad profile instead of passively blocking with Ad Nauseum <a href="https://adnauseam.io/" rel="nofollow">https://adnauseam.io/</a> . It uses Ublock origin under the hood. I've got my click rate set to high but not 100%.
Ad Nauseum is snakeoil. Their FAQ states that they "click" on ads by sending a XHR request[1]. As you might imagine, this is easily detectable, and given how rampant ad fraud is, fake "clicks" like those are almost certainly filtered by every ad network. Otherwise anyone with a botnet would be able to easily make millions of fake clicks with a few lines of javascript.<p>[1] <a href="https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/FAQ#how-does-adnauseam-click-ads" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/FAQ#how-does-adnause...</a>
Wasn't the whole idea to open links in hidden tabs?
> This lightweight request signals a 'click' on the server responsible for the Ad, but does so without opening any additional windows or pages on your computer. Further it allows AdNauseam to safely receive and discard the resulting response data, rather than executing it in the browser, thus preventing a range of potential security problems (ransomware, rogue Javascript or Flash code, XSS-attacks, etc.) caused by malfunctioning or malicious Ads.<p>You might be thinking of TrackMeNot, which <i>does</i> use tabs (iirc).
If it didn't work, Google wouldn't have banned it well ahead of them banning the working version of uBlock Origin.
From google's perspective it operates as a botnet consuming their resources and creating doubt as to the validity of their product among advertisers (disclaimer: I am not defending their business at all). That's the goal, but costing the advertisers themselves money doesn't necessarily follow.
I just created separate profiles for different stuff. Work is all on chrome anyways due to google integration, so all thats left in my random browsing.<p>Ordered in what I use the most -
Fanfics, novels - profile 1.
Netflix, others - profile 2.
General browsing - profile 3.
Is running Pihole or Adguard home even worth it these days ?<p>You can get something like NextDNS for $18/year, which is probably less than what you pay for the power required to serve Pihole or Adguard Home, and you get enterprise level infrastructure for it, along with redundancy, and it works "everywhere".<p>Yes, you (probably) need a caching resolver at home, and that could be Pihole or Adguard, but going through hoops to setup Wireguard and have all DNS resolve over that, just to reach pihole at home, that sounds like overkill.<p>Anyway, In case it's not obvious, NextDNS is how i roll, using a "stupid" caching DNS resolver at home.
I've been using NextDNS for years and never paid anything. Very occasionally (maybe twice) around the last few days of the month I get an email saying I reached my quota and filtering will stop working.
Can you setup custom filters on the free solution ?<p>If not, DNS4EU (<a href="https://www.joindns4.eu/" rel="nofollow">https://www.joindns4.eu/</a>) is free for personal use, and has no quota, and offers various endpoints for malware protection, adblocking, and other stuff.
Wdym by custom filters?<p>Maybe that's what you ask: NextDNS has:<p>- 50+ blocklists ready to use (including Easylist, Adguard, HaGeZi, Energized). You enable the ones you wish to use<p>- Many privacy options you can enable, including Disguised Third-Party Trackers (TIP), CNAME flattening<p>- Many security options you can enable, including Cryptojacking, Google Safe Browsing, IDN Homograph attacks, Typosquatting, dynamic hostnames<p>- Ready-to-use application-based and category-based allowing/blocking<p>- Custom blocking options such as allowlists, denylists, blocking certain TLDs, custom rewrites<p>It also has:<p>- Option to "Bypass Age Verification"<p>- Option to keep logs (in EU, Swiss or US) or not<p>- Free to use up to 300,000 queries / month<p>- Multiple profiles for different clients<p>- Supports virtually all browsers and all OS, desktop and mobile, either via its official app, configuration profile (iOS), or IPv4, IPv6, DNS-over-TLS/QUIC, DNS-over-HTTPS
Oh thanks, that looks like an interesting alternative<p>> Can you setup custom filters on the free solution?<p>No, but as the other person replying said, there's a huge range of built in filters and I've never felt any need to customize them.<p>EDIT: just spent a few minutes looking over the DNS4EU website. I can't see any configuration options at all. They just have 4 basic levels (standard, child protection, ad block, or unfiltered). So it appears less useful than NextDNS. Where did you see the ability to add custom filters?
Sure is in NZ at least. RTT to NextDNS is ~30ms for me, RTT to my AdGuardHome is 1ms.
I don't setup a VPN, I setup a public SSL certificate (this requires you to own a domain) on it, listening on port 853. Then doesn't matter if I'm at home or on Mobile/4G/Someone Else's Wifi. I don't need the hassle of an always-on VPN, I just have an always-on AdGuardHome.<p>The biggest hassle was making sure the world can't hit it (though it's not UDP 53 so it's not an amplification vector anyway) but only local NZ IPs, which I did with GeoFilterig on my router.
<i>"RTT to NextDNS is ~30ms for me"</i><p>That's why i setup a local caching resolver. RTT to NextDNS in Denmark is ~10ms, and RTT to my local caching resolver is 1-2ms, so yes, it's quicker, but my caching resolver is essentially just what my router offers (Unifi), with NextDNS as upstream (DNS over TLS).<p><i>"I just have an always-on AdGuardHome"</i><p>I've self hosted for 20 years, i honestly can't be bothered anymore. The power consumption of self hosted hardware alone costs more than the equivalent, better, service in the cloud. NextDNS is $18/year, thats 51 kWh at €0.35/kWh. 5W for a year is 43.8 kWh, which is roughly what a Raspberry Pi 3/4 uses, so for just €2.5/year i can have enterprise hardware and massive redundancy with zero operational risk compared to running on a single RPi at home.<p>Yes, i'm aware you can run better hardware with more services, but that really only makes the problem worse, both in terms of power consumption, but also in terms of TCO with hardware costs, as well as cybersecurity.<p>For most people, running in the cloud is cheaper than self hosting. If you have less than 5-6TB of data, the cloud will also be cheaper. After that the math starts going in the favor of self hosting, but year for year the amount of data you can store in the cloud cheaper than at home keeps growing. Yes, the cloud prices increase, but so does the price of harddrives and other hardware.<p><i>"but only local NZ IPs, which I did with GeoFilterig on my router."</i><p>I know geofiltering is usually security by obscurity, but it does keep the worst bots away, and i used to use it as well (when i self hosted). It cut down dramatically on the various "drive by shootings" by random bots constantly pinging various ports.
All good points. I already have a server that runs a whole bunch of other stuff (my router is a VM, my Unifi controller is a VM etc, all on the one box) so a tiny little AdGuardHome process and a port-forward in the router isn't using anymore power/effort.
FYI: NextDNS is free up to 300,000 queries a month.<p>I also wrote here: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46191045">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46191045</a>
Would recommend using the NextDNS software as the on-prem caching resolver — it can pass through the requesting client information so you're not losing any of the logging you'd have running Pi-hole, etc. at home.
You can just use Tailscale or similar service and not fight with setup of Wireguard. It's as simple as installing the app on devices and starting it
Wireguard is simple enough to setup, and i actually use it much like OP does, though i don't force all my DNS queries through it, and instead use NextDNS.<p>It's basically setup so that i have my internal machines registered in NextDNS as rewrites, and Wireguard is setup to route anything for my internal RFC-1918 network, ie. 192.168.1.0/24, so when NextDNS returns 192.168.1.5 for "host.mydomain.com", it will go over wireguard.<p>The advantage is that i can keep the tunnel up 24/7, and it has very little impact on battery life as normal requests simply go over the internet.
> just to reach pihole at home, that sounds like overkill.<p>Host AdGuard on a VPS (same one as the VPN?). Then you can use it from everywhere.
I doubt the VPS/VPN route is for the majority of people, but if "you" are one of those, then yes, it would make sense.<p>For everybody else, $18/year vs $5/month for a VPS should be an easy choice.
Firefox + uBlock origin and i'm blessed with peaceful browsing experience.
There's nothing too unexpected in this post. Firefox + uBlock is pretty much standard now. It's been impossible to recommend Chrome ever since Google moved to manifest v3, which can only be described as deliberate anti-privacy enshittification. The recaptcha solver is starting to become niche, since cloudflare has really taken over (for better or worse).<p>I would add one more useful tool though: A user-agent switcher[1]. There are still some websites that insist you <i>must</i> use Chrome (or sometimes Edge). They will block you if you try to use them with Firefox, even though they work perfectly well and sometimes even better on Firefox than they do on Chrome. A user-agent switcher gives you the option to simply uninstall Chrome for good.<p>e.g. My ISP provides a website for streaming live TV (e.g. sports) that claims to be incompatible with Firefox, but actually runs better (i.e. fewer glitches) on it than it does on Chrome. However, it refuses to load on Firefox unless you use a user-agent switcher.<p>Why do people write websites that refuse to run based on user-agent checks? By all means, warn users that you couldn't be arsed to test things on more than one browser, but why go that extra mile to brick your site when other browsers probably support it quite well?<p>[1]<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/user-agent-st...</a>
I'd recommend chrome mask instead. It's written by a Firefox engineer<p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/chrome-mask/" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/chrome-mask/</a>
This one makes automatic site-specific masking slightly easier. You can just click a button as opposed to writing an entry in settings. Good find!
oh! That's nice! sound even better since I just switch my user agent to chrome anyway.
Every time I turn on ua switcher I wind up in an infinite loop with cloudflare captchas. I literally cannot turn it on because of the aggressive practice of this one company. I am going to try the chrome mask extension the other user just posted, since it deals with some js shenanigans as well.
I have an Apple TV and I’ve been running iSponsorBlockTV [1] on my Synology box for a while. It auto-skips the sponsored segments and with Youtube premium, it gives me a clean, ad-free setup.<p>I can’t stand those in-video intros or sponsored promos, where I’m suddenly pitched a random VPN or productivity app.<p>[1]. <a href="https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV</a>
Brave + NextDNS/ControlD is what I've found the be the ultimate ad blocking combo for the entire household(TVs, phones, computers), when balancing cost/effort.<p>PiHole is popular but IMO not worth the effort when the above are so cheap. There are free ad blocking DNS servers, but they aren't customizable.
I don't use adblock, I just close a website if its ads interrupt my browsing experience.
Well, ads shown, goal reached.
How do you remember not to click all the links that have them in the future?
HN title optimizer has once again stripped the “How” from the beginning of the title.
There is also py-hole<p><a href="https://github.com/time4tea-net/py-hole/" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/time4tea-net/py-hole/</a><p>You can run it on your openwrt router - see readme. Its just a python script that updates a file that dnsmasq uses. No funny business, you are in charge of everything.<p>Disclaimer: author of said script.
This seems like a lot of work. I just point my router at AdGuard DNS and that takes care of all ads on every device on my network. No filter lists, nothing to host, completely free.<p>Only caveat is it doesn’t block ads served by the content provider itself e.g. some streaming services, but from what I hear those are difficult to block with any approach.
Also make sure to block ads on your mobile as well
<a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/predator-spyware-uses-new-infection-vector-for-zero-click-attacks/" rel="nofollow">https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/predator-spyw...</a>
basically, ublock origin on PC, tends to work well, I don't really see ads except for when the content creator plugs a product directly in their content.
One should not neglect the power of the /etc/hosts file. I use one from <a href="https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/" rel="nofollow">https://someonewhocares.org/hosts/</a>. I don’t bother with browser extensions; I never see ads.
> Ads support content creators and free services. If you value specific creators or platforms, consider supporting them directly through memberships or donations rather than relying solely on ad blocking.<p>Sometimes this isn’t available.<p>I would like to support Daring Fireball (a publication I read a lot) but the only way is to buy an ad slot for $11K which seems like a scam to both the viewer and the advertiser.<p>The advertiser isn’t getting any ROAS (since we are blocking the ads) and since the ads are annoying and repetitive, the viewers would just go elsewhere.<p>I wish more creators would have a “remove ads” tier or an alternative membership tier as a different way to support their content rather than ads.
> I would like to support Daring Fireball (a publication I read a lot) but the only way is to buy an ad slot for $11K which seems like a scam to both the viewer and the advertiser.<p>AFAIK, Daring Fireball never runs these tracking ad networks with tons of flashing and annoying ads. It does one tiny graphical ad on the web page and has a weekly sponsor post, both of which can be easily ignored. The graphical ad does not even appear in the full RSS feed.<p>To support Daring Fireball, you can use the links to the weekly sponsor if that product is of interest to you. Once or twice in a year or so, there may be posts with Amazon affiliate links (with full disclosure), which you can use if you want. Other than that, you can share the posts and have more people read it. That in turn could potentially help with the above mentioned aspects.
> AFAIK, Daring Fireball never runs these tracking ad networks with tons of flashing and annoying ads. It does one tiny graphical ad on the web page and has a weekly sponsor post, both of which can be easily ignored. The graphical ad does not even appear in the full RSS feed.<p>For me an ad is an ad, in graphical or text form and I very much didn't ask for it.<p>I feel it is psychologically trying to convince me to buy or make me be aware about something I don't want or need and very much not want this ruin my flow of consuming content.<p>On his links Daring Fireball IS tracking, they all do tracking in the URL of the sponsored post otherwise it doesn't make sense for the sponsor to pay $11K (a week!) for the spot.<p>> It does one tiny graphical ad on the web page and has a weekly sponsor post, both of which can be easily ignored. The graphical ad does not even appear in the full RSS feed.<p>I mean, yes I <i>could</i> ignore them, but would massively prefer if these ads didn't exist at all, I have no interest in anything that is being advertised there. Luckily Ublock Origin blocks Daring Fireball ads by default and not sure if his advertisers would be happy about this, but if I spend $11K a week on ads to find most people block them by default, I don't think I would bother wasting another ad slot.<p>To be fair maybe it is a sign that instead of ads, a membership, patreon or whatever would be much more sustainable, freeing, less scammy and more profitable than running junk ads that people don't want.
Daring Fireball has been doing the one ad a week in RSS with no tracking for over a decade. The sponsors must think they work.<p>You could always buy a Stratechery subscription - which is great by the way. Some of that money goes to Gruber for the Dithering podcast.<p>But Gruber is a famously self described bad business person for a content creator. He never tries to be an early reviewer when press embargoes are over for hardware. He claims to never look at his server logs and got rid of Google Analytics ages ago.<p>His podcast schedule is erratic.
> Daring Fireball has been doing the one ad a week in RSS with no tracking for over a decade. The sponsors must think they work.<p>I have no interest for anything sold in ads in their RSS and I assume they are tracking in the links that you click too (otherwise why spend all $11K for no results?)<p>> He claims to never look at his server logs and got rid of Google Analytics ages ago.<p>That is a good start, hopefully he should consider switching to a community supported model rather than rely on advertisers.
You can also pay for Dithering without stratechery.
> Sometimes this isn’t available.<p>Then their content can just go away tbh. This isn't some big ethical dilemma either.<p>Either find a way to make content that doesn't rely on ads, or stop making content. If the whole ad-funded internet disappeared tomorrow morning, would it really matter?
Try to buy an ad slot for an ad blocker?<p>(A less tongue-in-cheek option would be to email John, say that you’re blocking ads, and ask if you can donate instead. If enough people ask he might put up a form?)
My Personal Ad/Block Management Strategy<p>Here is the block management setup I personally use regularly:<p>Desktop<p>* DNS blocking is active via NextDNS.<p>* I use Ungoogled Chromium as my primary browser.<p>* I use the uBlock ad-blocking extension along with its filters.<p>* The SponsorBlock extension is very useful for skipping sponsored segments within YouTube videos.<p>Mobile<p>* DNS blocking is active via NextDNS.<p>* To block ads in Safari, I activate ad-blocking in Safari through the free Firefox Focus app.<p>* I use the YouTube app via AltStore. It is a nice feature that it also includes the SponsorBlock extension.<p>If you'd like, I can publish a comprehensive ad-blocking guide on the Ahmet Çadırcı <a href="https://ahmetcadirci.com/" rel="nofollow">https://ahmetcadirci.com/</a> page.
<i>NewPipe or Invidious</i><p>I've bee trying these and alternatives in FF via LibRedirect for years. I keep on wondering if it's just me but I have to babysit the setup and cycle through instances every so often.
Did same thing, not everything works, but there are (almost) no ads for me.
I would add Smarttube with Sponsorblock extension for android TV to the list. They had hickup recently with melitious hack and malware in their code but now seems to recovered.
And for all ads-trolls: "Oh, you are stealing income from creators." If I consider their work worth it I pay them (semi)directly.
My free and 5 minute setup: I am using Brave + uBlockOrigin Lite + AdGuard + AdGuard DNS on my home network. On android Brave + AdGuard DNS. No configuration just works, no annoyances. On youtube as well. Is there anything I should further do? I think I sometimes see ads in android apps maybe this can be optimized without root somehow?
Anyone have a method for blocking ads in RSS?<p>I regularly read <a href="https://daringfireball.com" rel="nofollow">https://daringfireball.com</a> and sick of their ads showing up in my RSS feed.<p>It is bad enough and distracting that ads show up on the site (thankfully Firefox and ublock origin does the job already) but on RSS blocking ads is impossible.
If you use a web RSS reader, then ublock origin will generally work on the ads in the feed.<p>I mostly just avoid subscribing to any feeds with ads. (Or pay for the ad-free feeds.)
I use Inoreader and filter out the ads via keywords. Works for repetitive content too…
I actually wonder if the whole anti-ad movement is moving in the wrong direction. And I’m right there with the author running a pi-hole, but I wonder if it would be better to have an extension that will click <i>all</i> of the ads in a way that is invisible to the user. Make all those companies burn thru their budgets for no gain.
You’re in luck: <a href="https://adnauseam.io/" rel="nofollow">https://adnauseam.io/</a>
see: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46188039">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46188039</a>
It probably is filtered by now, yes. No harm in trying, though, and it puts some pressure on ad networks at least.
Oh awesome, thanks for linking.
You'd have to, like, spawn a background browser or profile or something to capture the click to prevent tracking or even zero-click exploits.
>or even zero-click exploits.<p>You'd need a VM to safely contain any exploits, although you're probably safe from 0days if you're just doing some run of the mill ad clicking. Nobody is burning a 6-7 figure 0day on a public ad network, when they need to save that for targeted attacks like politicians/journalists, so keeping your browser reasonably up to date will be sufficient.
For sure, it would be technically challenging. Especially if the click requires use of a secure cookie. But it doesn’t have to be perfect to be effective, either, at least at first.
Big players like YouTube can create detection for that behavior. So it would only harm small sites that are trying to run ads to get by.
That assumes two things: 1. That such a tool couldn’t be limited to the big players (it could) and 2. That “small sites trying to run ads to get by,” aren’t part of the problem. I can understand why someone would believe this, but I believe the web would be a better place without them. These sites are all pretty much designed (poorly) around their ads, which limits their usefulness. Have you tried looking up recipes online? A bread recipe with 5 ingredients is 30 pages long!!!
I don’t think it harms the publishers. If the ad network (well, Google) does detect it, I think they just won’t pay for the “fraudulent”¹ clicks? (And in best case scenario, you’re actually <i>helping</i> small sites!)<p>Advertisers on the other hand will pay for nothing, yes. Some of them are small businesses. I wonder if there’s a way to click on big corp ads only...<p>Edit: ¹ – added scare quotes, see <a href="https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/FAQ#how-does-adnauseams-clicking-differ-from-click-fraud" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/FAQ#how-does-adnause...</a>
Brave browser helps a lot. I can't use some browsers due to the ad clutter. Some can handle the ads, some can't.
Whoa, if you use a VPN eventually instagram will stop showing you ads?!?! Is that really true? Has anyone else found this?
The VPN trick doesnt work for YouTube on mobile anymore. I get popups saying I need to log-in or disable my VPN to watch videos. I could probably buy a silly gmail account online and link it to my YouTube app, but am afraid it will log-in my whole phone to this shady Google account.
NextDNS is sufficient on its own. $20 for a year of no ads (or smut if you want to block that too).
Funny story on porn blockers. Back when I attended college, the college I attended blocked porn sites at the DNS level. It was pretty good at its job, but I did notice one false positive: I was trying to access the website for the Extremely Reliable Operating System (whose URL at the time was eros-os.org, though that URL no longer works). The porn blocker blocked my access attempt; I had to click on the "email the sysadmins" link and send them an email saying "Hey, can you add this site to the DNS whitelist? Despite having "eros" in the URL it's got nothing at all to do with porn." They whitelisted it and I had no more false-positives the rest of my college career. But I still laugh about that one, more than two decades later.
What is the point of such restrictions? DNS blacklists can be trivially bypassed by changing the browser's or the operating system's DNS resolver. For example, and somewhat insidiously, Firefox defaults to using Cloudflare AFAIK.
Brave+ControlD, for me. I'm not interested in YouTube, so don't care about that part.
To block adds in android apps, there is DNS66 available on f-droid. <a href="https://f-droid.org/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/" rel="nofollow">https://f-droid.org/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/</a>
AI content is become as insidious as ads were. Is there software to block AI content?
AdGuard Extra (beta) browser extension blocks twitch adds very reliable.
The methods OP uses are nothing new.<p>What is needed is some way to block Amazon Prime ads (and the like), these come from the same Amazon url and currently are unstoppable.
Some applications tunnel in their ads over non-ad domains, making them unlockable.<p>For example IMDb. And proxying over mitmproxy actually breaks the whole app, because they do certificate pinning.
I view this as a sliding scale these days. Nothing is so important that if the ads are a nuisance I won't just stop using it entirely.
I think Space Weather started to do it too. I was fine with small ads ad the bottom but suddenly its two huge (full screen), unskippable ads.<p>AdGuard's log shows nondescript servers and suddenly a lot of IPv6 connections and then ads :(
Blocking isn't the issue, it's the websites that straight up <i>break</i> that are the hard part.<p>For example, Shopify hates ublock and will sometimes not load apps at all
I use uBlock on desktop and laptop with Dan host files. AdGuard DNS on Android, or Firefox Mobile with uBlock extension. Even Edge on mobile has extension support now.
In mobile, Google gives us the Private DNS in Settings. Use your preferred blocking level from Controld and enjoy ad/track free in all networks.
Anyone have a way of blocking twitter adds?<p>I’ve just been watching streams after they’re done so that I can get rid of them that way<p>Edit: nvm author mentions vpns as a solution
For the iOS folks, is the Mullvad DNS config better or worse than the Ublock Origin Safari Extension? The former seems a bit more invasive
semi-related: after installing pi-hole and using it on my wifi, Netflix on the TV stopped working, ads on (some, big) polish websites were still present. Uninstalled 10 minutes later. Had similar experience last time I tried (years ago) - pihole gave me problems using work-related pages or whatnot. Is there nothing better? E.g. ublock origin but for dns?
Take a look at AdGuard Home. It's functionally similar to pihole but overall better made / easier to use (IMO). I only use the first AdGuard DNS Filter and have only need to allow one domain to unbreak a site, but I also combine it with the browser extension (DNS-level blocking isn't going to remove all ads no matter what you do). You can check the query log to see what's getting blocked.
Maybe try a less aggressive blacklist in Pi-hole, or better yet, cancel your Netflix subscription and source your content in the high seas.
Ublock Origin + firefox/zen are so good.
I just pay $1.99/month to NextDNS tbh
On Safari I use Wipr and Sponsorblock. Afterwards I use web version of everything instead of apps, including youtube.
Note that using Helium, you can use a Chromium based browser and still enjoy uBlock Origin properly.
librewolf with ublock<p>firefox sold out on their users quit using them
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/FObvkFtr2ZU" rel="nofollow">https://youtube.com/shorts/FObvkFtr2ZU</a>
DNS-based ad blocking works great if everyone is okay with the degraded experience that can come with that (if you're using aggressive hosts lists). You're making concessions if not.<p>The VPN-based "solution" is basically as realistic as disabling JavaScript. Extremely limiting.
Is it legal for companies to allow employees to use firefox + ublock?
For Twitch on Android I am using Twire, it works great mainly for replays
1Blocker on iOS and macOS has been good. It also blocks in-app trackers.
TIL. Need to figure out how to redirect insta over a vpn then
Anyone use SmartTube? Or is it something I should remove?
> but I've heard good things about NextDNS<p>I have used them both paid and free and they are not good. I will pick just one point - support. It's pathetic. Maybe because it's non existent. I stopped paying for it, started using free, then removed it altogether.<p>uBlock Origin really is that good as others are saying. I haven't really needed anything else. Ads in other apps? Well, that's a hit or miss but then a lot of my finance/investment related apps anyway don't work if I use any ad blocking on local network or device label, sadly. Tweaking around it is how I needed support with NextDNS and then realised I've been paying for something with essentially no support.
What support did you need? Sounds like it's only a matter of checking what's blocked in the logs and adding some exceptions to the allow list?<p>I'm pretty aggressive with the block lists I have selected and expect to fiddle with it lots, but I have a second (much more "reasonable") profile that family uses and it works great (still catches a huge amount of stuff that browser adblockers miss) despite never needing any fiddling. It's been great for me.
I'm a happy NextDNS user. I'm not sure what kind of support you need that wouldn't be solved by asking AI and/or some community online. They have wonderful integrations, instructions, documentation and features. Blocking ads is not even primary reason I use them - the parental control and safety features are the main reason for me.
Desktop and mobile: Firefox and uBlock Origin.<p>Mobile: Blockada to prevent apps from reaching their ad servers. NewPipe.<p>Desktop: Freetube.<p>uBO has the bonus to have an element picker that I use to remove the empty areas where ads would show. I do it for sites that I use often. I also remove some useless menus and headers. I particularly hate sticky ones.
realistically though, most YouTube content is an ad for something ;)
It's a shame the web has become so predatory to neophytes.
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how much time you have to spend online to do all this sh*t to block ads…??!
You must be very tolerant to ads.
Amortized 0.<p>I spend more time telling others about uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock and ReVanced.