6 comments

  • perihelions51 minutes ago
    Reminds me of the time the EU Commission itself was caught violating laws in the course of their pro-Chat Control ad campaign,<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;noyb.eu&#x2F;en&#x2F;noyb-files-complaint-against-eu-commission-over-targeted-chat-control-ads" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;noyb.eu&#x2F;en&#x2F;noyb-files-complaint-against-eu-commissio...</a> (<i>&quot;noyb files complaint against EU Commission over targeted chat control ads&quot;</i>)<p>&gt; <i>&quot;In September 2023, the Commission used unlawful micro-targeting on Twitter (X) to promote its heavily criticized chat control regulation... This move both undermined the established democratic procedures between EU institutions and violated the EU GDPR.&quot;</i>
  • elric3 hours ago
    Is there a source that isn&#x27;t a gif on reddit?
    • ajb2 hours ago
      As ones of the comments says, you can go to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;law&#x2F;better-regulation&#x2F;have-your-say&#x2F;initiatives&#x2F;14680-Data-retention-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-impact-assessment&#x2F;feedback_en?p_id=19693" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;law&#x2F;better-regulation&#x2F;have-your-sa...</a> and search by &quot;invasive&quot; to see that several responses are the same, some identified as police.<p>But I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s evidence of a botnet. Seems more likely a conventional letter writing campaign where people are invited to paste the same response. Could easily be within the police,which is dubious, but individual police officers may have the right to respond as individuals.
      • p2detar2 hours ago
        Yeah, I saw this comment [0] and I&#x27;m very confused as to how one concludes there is a botnet in play, let alone by a public institution. Most likely it is an employee in the police, which is totally fine. They&#x27;re not forbidden to express opinion.<p>0 - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;law&#x2F;better-regulation&#x2F;have-your-say&#x2F;initiatives&#x2F;14680-Data-retention-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-impact-assessment&#x2F;F3567054_en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;law&#x2F;better-regulation&#x2F;have-your-sa...</a>
        • cluckindan1 hour ago
          ”Go to this website and copy-paste this text there, or you will never see a promotion and may even be fired”
      • p-e-w2 hours ago
        It doesn’t really matter whether it’s a botnet or a coordinated campaign by police officers. The fact that police is interfering with the political process is somewhere between a breakdown of the rule of law, and an attempted coup.<p>Voting isn’t going to fix stuff like this, that’s for sure.
        • dash22 hours ago
          This is a wildly hysterical comment.
          • pessimizer24 minutes ago
            Profound. I&#x27;m convinced. Do you have any diagnoses for anyone else?
        • saubeidl2 hours ago
          <i>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?</i>
  • coolbean1 hour ago
    The &quot;Organization&quot; field is provided by the submitter themselves. It is <i>not</i> based on an IP (geo)location feed. I have deduced this based on a comment where the organization field is &quot;federal police&quot; in lower case [1].<p>There are a total of 19 comments with the same content. The claim that they were submitted by a botnet is easily dismissable. Especially given the fact that a &quot;botnet&quot;&#x2F;troll farm would likely use different IP addresses, names, organizations and comment content ...<p>What remains open is whether these 19 commenters were instructed to submit these comments or if they did so on their own. If they did do it on their own, was it in their free time? If so, is it okay to do so under their employers name?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;law&#x2F;better-regulation&#x2F;have-your-say&#x2F;initiatives&#x2F;14680-Data-retention-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-impact-assessment&#x2F;F3566978_en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ec.europa.eu&#x2F;info&#x2F;law&#x2F;better-regulation&#x2F;have-your-sa...</a>
  • arschficknigger4 minutes ago
    EUSSR
  • letmetweakit3 hours ago
    The proof in the post is pretty dubious.
  • zimza2 hours ago
    Another thing that will not be properly investigated, as usual.
    • saubeidl2 hours ago
      Not unless there is political pressure for it.<p>We are not bystanders in some scheme played out by others. We&#x27;re the protagonists. Our (in-) action determines how things play out.
      • p-e-w2 hours ago
        Please describe a concrete action by private individuals that would lead to this incident being properly investigated.
        • saubeidl2 hours ago
          There&#x27;s many ways, from benign organizing of protests or involving the media all the way down to armed insurrection or terrorist threats. Again, you&#x27;re a protagonist - choose your own story!
          • p-e-w2 hours ago
            7 million people protested against Donald Trump on October 18th, one of the largest protests in human history.<p>It meant Jack Shit.<p>If they had brought arms, they would have been gunned down by people with more powerful arms, and it would still mean Jack Shit.
            • saubeidl2 hours ago
              Sure, that&#x27;s one example of it going one way.<p>Then there&#x27;s Ghandi, the Arab Spring, Milošević, the Iranian Shah as examples of things going the other way - and those are just the ones that immediately came to mind.<p>Again, don&#x27;t be a bystander believing in foregone conclusions - that way you make them self-fulfilling prophecies. Be part of writing the story instead!
              • p-e-w1 hour ago
                All of those happened in underdeveloped, weak countries with decades of violent infighting preceding those events.<p>If something similar were attempted in any Western country, the people involved would be murdered and things would be back to normal the next day.<p>There’s a reason European countries maintain twice as many police officers per capita as the “police state” China.
                • saubeidl1 hour ago
                  Decades of violent infighting don&#x27;t come out of nowhere, they were somebody&#x27;s conscious decision.<p>Again, you can be a bystander or a protagonist.
                  • pessimizer47 minutes ago
                    You believe that things only happen to people because they don&#x27;t &quot;speak up&quot; but it is a goofy belief. There are people that will first fire you, then hit you with sticks and jail you, then shoot you and your kids.<p>You are not the first person to complain. There is no manager to call. Standing in the street with your friends is a social event. If you&#x27;re not telling people where and when to show up, what to bring, and why it will work, you&#x27;re just on the internet stealing valor from real heroes.
                    • saubeidl34 minutes ago
                      No, I believe those things happening to people is also protagonist stuff.<p>Sometimes, being a martyr for your beliefs is the best you can do. Either way, don&#x27;t be passive.